Idaho Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Some interesting match-ups could happen.... Nasir Bailey, Kyle Dutton in action. Hwt could see Nevills vs Elam. https://www.trackwrestling.com/predefinedtournaments/MainFrame.jsp?newSession=false&TIM=1699714311266&pageName=%2Fpredefinedtournaments%2FTournamentHub.jsp&twSessionId=czjoaqsuva Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizzouFan01 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Edmond and Mocco with losses in the finals. Kal Miller and Aden Kemp or Cal Poly. Clayton Whitting beats both Harmon and Hawks to win the championship. Is he now the starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizzouFan01 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Z Elam 8-1 over Nevills. No Mizzou rep at 197 for the tournament 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnyfletcher Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Nice to see Little Rock with a couple champs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, funnyfletcher said: Nice to see Little Rock with a couple champs! Impressive win for Little over Jaxon Smith 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_KC_Godfather Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, MizzouFan01 said: Edmond and Mocco with losses in the finals. Kal Miller and Aden Kemp or Cal Poly. Clayton Whitting beats both Harmon and Hawks to win the championship. Is he now the starter? As a KC guy, I don't like to say it, but Kal stalled his butt off (which surprises me, because that's not his style). Doesn't mean that Edmonds shouldn't have displayed more, but the lack of stalling calls in that match was ridiculous. Miller didn't do anything until OT and Clemson knew it. Hawks is the starter regardless of this match. He is a world level athlete but loses silly ones like this...doesn't make sense. Neither does Seltzer, Edmonds of Mocco losing. Can't explain it. But, it'll all work itself out by the end of the season... Edited November 12, 2023 by The_KC_Godfather 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 8 hours ago, The_KC_Godfather said: As a KC guy, I don't like to say it, but Kal stalled his butt off (which surprises me, because that's not his style). Doesn't mean that Edmonds shouldn't have displayed more, but the lack of stalling calls in that match was ridiculous. Miller didn't do anything until OT and Clemson knew it. Hawks is the starter regardless of this match. He is a world level athlete but loses silly ones like this...doesn't make sense. Neither does Seltzer, Edmonds of Mocco losing. Can't explain it. But, it'll all work itself out by the end of the season... Why is Hawks locked in as the starter? Whiting has had some really nice wins in his career also. I would think it’s something that will be decided throughout the season because they seem to be very even. Both seem to be a slight notch about Harmon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_KC_Godfather Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Gus said: Why is Hawks locked in as the starter? Whiting has had some really nice wins in his career also. I would think it’s something that will be decided throughout the season because they seem to be very even. Both seem to be a slight notch about Harmon. Just my opinion. I would think because Hawks made it to R16 at NCAA's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerfan Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Mizzou has 5 duals and the Cougar Clash (SIUE) before the new year. I expect the decision who goes 2nd semester will be based on the sum total of their performances at that point. Most likely Whiting will get the nod in their next dual at ASU due to this win. Having them both available for duals gives them some flexibility and that can be an advantage in a dual setting. I’m sure nothing is set in stone just yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhlm Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, Tigerfan said: Mizzou has 5 duals and the Cougar Clash (SIUE) before the new year. I expect the decision who goes 2nd semester will be based on the sum total of their performances at that point. Most likely Whiting will get the nod in their next dual at ASU due to this win. Having them both available for duals gives them some flexibility and that can be an advantage in a dual setting. I’m sure nothing is set in stone just yet. And last year Hawks won in the finals over Harman who started in the next dual. With none of them having rs left, I would say they could interchange any of the three. I would agree nothing is set in stone, and I admit I am biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizzouFan01 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 This is my opinion so take it for what it is. Whitting should start. He’s earned it. Hawks maybe be a former World Team member, but that was the past. He’s plateaued offensively. Whitting who was third string last year has obviously gained on both Hawks and Harmon. Yes Smith could use each wrestler in spots, but right now it has to be Whitting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Dominic Mendez of Cal Poly over Braxton Brown of Maryland 21-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromit Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, 1032004 said: Dominic Mendez of Cal Poly over Braxton Brown of Maryland 21-12 The "Andrew Alton gas tank" version of Braxton Brown will continue to struggle this year. Edited November 13, 2023 by gromit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smsu150 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 20 hours ago, MizzouFan01 said: This is my opinion so take it for what it is. Whitting should start. He’s earned it. Hawks maybe be a former World Team member, but that was the past. He’s plateaued offensively. Whitting who was third string last year has obviously gained on both Hawks and Harmon. Yes Smith could use each wrestler in spots, but right now it has to be Whitting. Personally I'd like to see Hawks there, but either guy should do well for the Tigers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizzouFan01 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Smsu150 said: Personally I'd like to see Hawks there, but either guy should do well for the Tigers. Smith will do what’s best for the team, we all know that. If that’s Hawks I’d root for him just as I would anyone else. As a fan I’d like to see Whittling. See what he brings to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerfan Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I’ve been told that Hawks is the best pure athlete on the team. Which means Whiting is the better “wrestler” and he’s only a freshman. I was really hoping he’d make a jump this year to AA caliber, but this loss casts doubt on that. Reminds me a little of Bradley/Ellis in 2009. Ellis was returning starter (r12) and word was Bradley was beating him in the room (as well as a Nov open, iirc). Nonetheless, Ellis retained his spot and was Champ that year. Colton Hawks, 2024 NCAA 184lb Champ. Book it! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Tunnel Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Tigerfan said: Colton Hawks, 2024 NCAA 184lb Champ. Book it! Ummm….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhlm Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, MizzouFan01 said: Smith will do what’s best for the team, we all know that. If that’s Hawks I’d root for him just as I would anyone else. As a fan I’d like to see Whittling. See what he brings to the table. Well, looks like as a FAN, you’ll get your wish this weekend. Sounds like WHITING will be starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Tigerfan said: Reminds me a little of Bradley/Ellis in 2009. Ellis was returning starter (r12) and word was Bradley was beating him in the room (as well as a Nov open, iirc). Nonetheless, Ellis retained his spot and was Champ that year. Colton Hawks, 2024 NCAA 184lb Champ. Book it! In 2010 Bradley beat Ellis at the Central Missouri Open and the Nittany Lion Open, but Smith still kept Ellis as the starter. I guess it was pretty hard to bench the returning national champ, even though he only finished 22-13 his senior season. I'm betting we'll see some back and forth on the roster at 184. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhlm Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I am more a Hawks fan than a Whiting fan - and that has only increased with the behavior this past weekend, which has also exposed some things that were going on the past few weeks that came to light. I would love to see Hawks as the 2024 NCAA champ, but I know that is more than likely not going to be the case. I also would not be surprised to see some back and forth at 184. Smith said as much in his after tourney interview. But then again, he says a lot of things and then changes what he actually does. It’s only the first week and half of each of the 184s match’s have been against each other. A lot can happen between now and March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizzouFan01 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Mhlm said: Well, looks like as a FAN, you’ll get your wish this weekend. Sounds like WHITING will be starting. I assure you I’m exactly that, a fan. No dog in the fight. Been watching Hawks since GAC days when I would come home and catch a dual or tournament that FHC was attending. We will see how it plays out. Both top 50 recruits coming out, will be interesting for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizzouFan01 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, KCMO2 said: In 2010 Bradley beat Ellis at the Central Missouri Open and the Nittany Lion Open, but Smith still kept Ellis as the starter. I guess it was pretty hard to bench the returning national champ, even though he only finished 22-13 his senior season. I'm betting we'll see some back and forth on the roster at 184. Will Brooks also beat Chandler in the Black and Gold and possibly an open(Lindenwood) maybe and Smith stayed with Chandler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 7 hours ago, MizzouFan01 said: Will Brooks also beat Chandler in the Black and Gold and possibly an open(Lindenwood) maybe and Smith stayed with Chandler. Think you mean Emanuel Brooks. He fought Will Brooks in MMA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 9 hours ago, Mhlm said: I am more a Hawks fan than a Whiting fan - and that has only increased with the behavior this past weekend, which has also exposed some things that were going on the past few weeks that came to light. What behavior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizzouFan01 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 6 hours ago, KCMO2 said: Think you mean Emanuel Brooks. He fought Will Brooks in MMA. Yes you are correct, my fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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