Strong day for the Dems in high profile elections today

[VakAttack]

Retained the Kentucky governorship, retained the Virginia state house, and also got abortion rights into the Ohio Constitution despite sneaky politicking there.  Not necessarily indicative of anything for 2024 with the federal elections, tough Senate slate and obviously we can see what a mess the presidential race is shaping up to be.  Good day for the blues, though. 

[WrestlingRasta]

Honestly I think it is pretty indicative of, at least a current snapshot of where we’re headed for next year.  
 

If republicans don’t truly dump the MAGA train, I feel like Dems are going to see a lot of victories. 

Edited November 8, 2023 by WrestlingRasta

[Ohio Elite]

Marijuana now legal in ohio, I never thought I'd see the day. Alot of moderate Republicans here. State legislatures, not so much

[WrestlingRasta]

5 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said:

Marijuana now legal in ohio, I never thought I'd see the day. Alot of moderate Republicans here. State legislatures, not so much

So now Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio. 
When will Indiana break???

[Ohio Elite]

Just now, WrestlingRasta said:

So now Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio. 
When will Indiana break???

That might be a tough one, but crazier things have happened

[WrestlingRasta]

1 minute ago, Ohio Elite said:

That might be a tough one, but crazier things have happened

I figure Indiana and Kentucky will be two of the last states in the Union..

[Ohio Elite]

Just now, WrestlingRasta said:

I figure Indiana and Kentucky will be two of the last states in the Union..

What about Bama??

[ionel]

3 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

If republicans don’t truly dump the MAGA train, I feel like Dems are going to see a lot of victories. 

Yes we wish you would drop it.  Didn't know you are a republican.  

[WrestlingRasta]

11 minutes ago, ionel said:

Yes we wish you would drop it.  Didn't know you are a republican.  

I’d say about 65/35, 70/30 on the conservative side. 
 

What do you wish I would drop, and who is ‘we’ in that scenario?

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[ionel]

2 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

I’d say about 65/35, 70/30 on the conservative side. 
 

What do you wish I would drop, and who is ‘we’ in that scenario?

MAGA

we the people

Edited November 8, 2023 by ionel

[WrestlingRasta]

11 minutes ago, ionel said:

MAGA

we the people

Trust me, I would love nothing more for our country, than for MAGA to not be a relevant topic. But unfortunately….

(and side note, you certainly don’t speak for ‘we the people’ on that topic. One thing MAGA could understand better is the concept of “my belief does not mean should be everyone’s belief”)
 

 

[uncle bernard]

6 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Honestly I think it is pretty indicative of, at least a current snapshot of where we’re headed for next year.  
 

If republicans don’t truly dump the MAGA train, I feel like Dems are going to see a lot of victories. 

Down ballot, but I think these results also show the Dems have a major Biden problem. His numbers are awful right now. People like Dems. They don't like Biden and don't want him to run. We'll see if the Dems show some courage and make the smart move.

[VakAttack]

1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

Down ballot, but I think these results also show the Dems have a major Biden problem. His numbers are awful right now. People like Dems. They don't like Biden and don't want him to run. We'll see if the Dems show some courage and make the smart move.

It's not even that they don't like him, but it's clear that (fairly) the age is a huge problem.  For whatever reason, the Rs don't feel the same way about similarly aged Trump, but c'est la vie.

[mspart]

1 hour ago, VakAttack said:

It's not even that they don't like him, but it's clear that (fairly) the age is a huge problem.  For whatever reason, the Rs don't feel the same way about similarly aged Trump, but c'est la vie.

Trump is at least mentally lucid.   You cannot say that about Biden. 

mspart

[VakAttack]

1 minute ago, mspart said:

Trump is at least mentally lucid.   You cannot say that about Biden. 

mspart

Just complete denial of reality with posts like this.  Or a refusal to listen to anything Trump is saying these days.

[nick]

8 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

I figure Indiana and Kentucky will be two of the last states in the Union..

Kentucky has Big Bourbon and Indiana has Big Pharma - If those actually matter who knows but folks say it a lot over here

I could see Kentucky going first before Indiana does though

[Ohio Elite]

6 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Just complete denial of reality with posts like this.  Or a refusal to listen to anything Trump is saying these days.

Bidens brain is toasted. What planet do you live on? Trump might say some goofy sh*t but atleast he's coherent.

[nick]

After this team does Andy Beshear try his hand at the Senate or does he jump into the national game? He has to wait a cycle if he wants to continue governorship 

While he doesn't have a mandate, he is pretty much loved by all, or at least if feels like it... the only negative remarks during this election were covid (and I mean those folks are voting for him anyway), that he was too nice, and not as progressive as some would like (so all nothing real)

[VakAttack]

Just now, Ohio Elite said:

Bidens brain is toasted. What planet do you live on? Trump might say some goofy sh*t but atleast he's coherent.

Again, denial of reality.  In the past two months alone he's gone on and on about how he is leading Obama in the polls, Biden was going to plunge us into World War 2, didn't know what city he was in, and confused Jeb Bush with George W. Bush.  This just from a 3 minute Google search.  Neither of these guys is dementia ridden, they're just old.  Too old to be in charge of the country, but here we are.

[BobDole]

We really need to stop letting the people vote on things.... what next?

 

[mspart]

13 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Neither of these guys is dementia ridden, they're just old.  Too old to be in charge of the country, but here we are.

Biden is senseless and Trump can still put together a sentence and not trail off with - whateverrrrrrrrrrrrrr.   But I agree with Vak's statement above.  Neither should be candidates.

mspart 

Edited November 8, 2023 by mspart

[Ohio Elite]

11 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

 Neither of these guys is dementia ridden, they're just old.  Too old to be in charge of the country, but here we are.

Well I'm not gonna argue with that logic.

How wonderful would age limits be?

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

10 minutes ago, BobDole said:

We really need to stop letting the people vote on things.... what next?

 

While I do not agree with his example, I do agree with his statement, as did the framers of the constitution.

We don't have a pure democracy. The Senate exists as a check against purely representative government. It is there to specifically stop the many from strictly and always imposing their will on the few.

Weren't you in the room where it happens?

[BobDole]

9 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

While I do not agree with his example, I do agree with his statement, as did the framers of the constitution.

We don't have a pure democracy. The Senate exists as a check against purely representative government. It is there to specifically stop the many from strictly and always imposing their will on the few.

Weren't you in the room where it happens?

I was in the room just for the signing of the documents. Those meetings were chaotic and let me tell you, Ben Franklin is a jerk!

As for the other comments, complaining that you can't boss around the people because you "lost" on two laws doesn't sound good and shows you don't care about "WE THE PEOPLE." Supposedly, he is of the party with LESS government regulations and MORE freedoms, it doesn't sound that way.

Ohio is at least a light red state and they voted overwelmingly in favor of two very blue issues. 

[mspart]

Yeah that guy is an idiot.  I have to say.  

mspart