Maxwell Smart Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 Killdozer put out stats responding to the 5 best teams in the last 10 years post that help make the point of underachieving. No conference titles and 6 national champions. Mr PeanutButter made some excellent points in his response. Yes, there are injuries we don't know the full extent of, but the 4 wrestlers listed that were highly touted recruits and came up short could easily double with some thought. Didn't opine that the Brands brothers needed to go, just don't understand the adulation from the Intermat writers. The rabid fan base is understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Maxwell Smart said: Killdozer put out stats responding to the 5 best teams in the last 10 years post that help make the point of underachieving. No conference titles and 6 national champions. Mr PeanutButter made some excellent points in his response. Yes, there are injuries we don't know the full extent of, but the 4 wrestlers listed that were highly touted recruits and came up short could easily double with some thought. Didn't opine that the Brands brothers needed to go, just don't understand the adulation from the Intermat writers. The rabid fan base is understandable. It is not that hard to figure out. Are you a Penn State fan? If yes, then you would not want to change places with Iowa. If no, then you would want to change places with Iowa who has been the clear #2 team since Tom took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: @Wrestleknownothing? Can you work your magix with this one? I might suggest using Flo's until approximately three (3) years ago and then going with Brain's. Just a gut feeling there. My kingdom for recruiting class rankings data. Flo has 2022 and prior years behind their paywall and I am no longer a Flo subscriber. As for the Brain, are those on his Rokfin? I did not see them on Intermat. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Maxwell Smart said: Killdozer put out stats responding to the 5 best teams in the last 10 years post that help make the point of underachieving. No conference titles and 6 national champions. Mr PeanutButter made some excellent points in his response. Yes, there are injuries we don't know the full extent of, but the 4 wrestlers listed that were highly touted recruits and came up short could easily double with some thought. Didn't opine that the Brands brothers needed to go, just don't understand the adulation from the Intermat writers. The rabid fan base is understandable. No conference titles in the last ten years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: No conference titles in the last ten years? 2015, 2020 & 2021 don't count..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 That comb-over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 14 hours ago, nhs67 said: @Wrestleknownothing? Can you work your magix with this one? I might suggest using Flo's until approximately three (3) years ago and then going with Brain's. Just a gut feeling there. In the last half dozen years, among teams that have been in the top 20 recruiting rank per Flo at least four times, Iowa is indeed second, @Mr. PeanutButter 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 52 minutes ago, MPhillips said: There are so many things wrong with that photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex1fly Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) On 10/30/2023 at 12:05 PM, Maxwell Smart said: The first topic I addressed in this forum was how intermat is in love with the Brands brothers and I didn't understand the adulation based on the lack of results in the last 13 years. Kevin Claunch writes they "THRIVE off your negative vibes" and "they get STRONGER with every negative thought about Iowa and are MASTERS at motivating their athletes when it's THEM against the world." The staff gets the best out of their talent, which is generally seems to be why talent goes there. Look at their record! No NCAA team titles in 14 years, finished 3rd and 4th several times, top recruits and transfers never became individual champions, several years with NO individual national champion. The fan base readily accepts that they're the 2nd best team and crow about it. There was a time when what Kevin Claunch wrote was 100% accurate, but it hasn't been that way since Dan Gable. The Brands brothers are entertaining but aren't the great coaches they get credit for being. IMO. I’m not an Iowa fan but this reads like hot garbage. Everyone wants to place first but placing second is a massive success in any sport at any level. And yes this forum does love talking about Iowa, as an OK State fan I wish we had that level of participation but we need some better things to talk about besides speculation on new guys and what the heck went wrong with the Ferraris. I hate these kinds of threads anyways. Nobody is forcing you to like Iowa or read Iowa fan commentary. Edited November 2, 2023 by alex1fly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Anthony Ferrari beats Voinovich 2-1 at the Luther Open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gus said: Anthony Ferrari beats Voinovich 2-1 at the Luther Open. No takedowns - Did a riding time point win it? Is that a big enough difference to pull a redshirt? Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxhawk174 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Idaho said: No takedowns - Did a riding time point win it? Is that a big enough difference to pull a redshirt? 3 stall calls on Voinovich (2 in neutral 1st period, 1 on top 2nd period) giving Ferrari 2 points, and 1 escape point for Voinovich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Laxhawk174 said: 3 stall calls on Voinovich (2 in neutral 1st period, 1 on top 2nd period) giving Ferrari 2 points, and 1 escape point for Voinovich. Wow.... bad way to lose a match. Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, Laxhawk174 said: 3 stall calls on Voinovich (2 in neutral 1st period, 1 on top 2nd period) giving Ferrari 2 points, and 1 escape point for Voinovich. Sounds like a real barn burner. 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 49 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Sounds like a real barn burner. VV does not generate much offense. Goo defense and really good at riding on top. I believe this is the first match Ferrari has wrestled in over 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Laxhawk174 said: 3 stall calls on Voinovich (2 in neutral 1st period, 1 on top 2nd period) giving Ferrari 2 points, and 1 escape point for Voinovich. So the Ferrari got riden out but there was no riding time point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 That match was god awful. They should both pool their money and try to pay Flo to erase it from the internet.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittanychris Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 10 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Sounds like a real barn burner. Iowa Style. Two wrestlers, zero takedowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 8 hours ago, ionel said: So the Ferrari got riden out but there was no riding time point? He rode VV long enough in the 3rd to erase the point Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nittanychris said: Iowa Style. Two wrestlers, zero takedowns. The car beat the stop sign. Edited November 12, 2023 by Pinnacle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Pinnacle said: Who won? The car or the stop sign? The car. Also of note, Voinovich won his semi 2-1 in TB-1. Two matches, plus two overtimes without an offensive point. Oof. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gantry Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Also beat Cal Baptist in the dual 2-0 without a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gantry said: Also beat Cal Baptist in the dual 2-0 without a TD. Good point. Against D1 competition he has gone 3 straight without a TD, but is still 2-1 in that stretch as he has also not allowed a TD. Can he keep it up for the entire season? God, I hope so. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Good point. Against D1 competition he has gone 3 straight without a TD, but is still 2-1 in that stretch as he has also not allowed a TD. Can he keep it up for the entire season? God, I hope so. With the new 3pt td rule he doesn't want appear greedy, gonna win Iowa old school way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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