headshuck Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 https://saturdaytradition.com/iowa-football/iowa-wrestling-will-reportedly-make-history-with-dual-on-espn/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 First time ever is pretty crazy! Hard to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Hopefully the gamblers are available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 56 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said: First time ever is pretty crazy! Hard to believe. Yeah, a bunch of folks were digging to make sure this was actually confirmed. ESPN research dug through the archives as well to confirm. My only thought that could have been an option was back in the early 1980s when ESPN launched, they put a lot of weird stuff on the air - obscure leagues and smaller college sports - so my thought was an IPTV dual could have shown up on the network back in the day tape-delayed. Apparently not. We just saw Big Ten women's volleyball on broadcast television for the first time last night. It's good for non-football and basketball sports. 2 Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Iowa-Iowa State? Do they WANT a bad product for TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jason Bryant said: Yeah, a bunch of folks were digging to make sure this was actually confirmed. ESPN research dug through the archives as well to confirm. My only thought that could have been an option was back in the early 1980s when ESPN launched, they put a lot of weird stuff on the air - obscure leagues and smaller college sports - so my thought was an IPTV dual could have shown up on the network back in the day tape-delayed. Apparently not. We just saw Big Ten women's volleyball on broadcast television for the first time last night. It's good for non-football and basketball sports. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Big Ten women's volleyball had twice the viewership of all of wrestling. They do a really good job with it and it's a good product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 With all the viewing options these days is this even a big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) So Cassioppi, Assad, Brands, Siebrecht, Schriever, and PK will all be out then, still. 125 - Ayala 133 - Teske 141 - Woods 149 - Voinovich 157 - Franek 165 - Caliendo 174 - Swafford/Arnold/Rhodes 184 - Swafford/Arnold/Rhodes 197 - Franklin/Glazier 285 - Hill That is still a salty Dual Lineup... https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/perma/668/iowa-vs-iowa-state Keep in mind it has Chittum (ISU) and Arnold (Iowa) losing via bonus. Neither will happen if those Frosh take the mat. I think Arnold at 184 and Swafford at 174, unless the plan was for Swafford at 184 all along with Assad going up? Not sure. In any case Iowa will/should be fine even without the gents that are suspended. Both for this dual and for NCAAs. Edited October 30, 2023 by nhs67 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, ionel said: With all the viewing options these days is this even a big deal? Yes, because the guide on your smart TV has replaced the "channel surfing" click-click-click drive-by viewer. We've got viewing options as wrestling fans. We know where to go. Putting a big dual on a channel that isn't randomly there for niche sports fans helps get the sport added exposure. A lot more cable and streaming systems carry ESPN than they do ESPNU or ESPNews. Duals on ESPN and ESPN will have the opportunity for more eyeballs. Is it a huge deal? Maybe not, but it's definitely big. 1 Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Jason Bryant said: Yes, because the guide on your smart TV has replaced the "channel surfing" click-click-click drive-by viewer. We've got viewing options as wrestling fans. We know where to go. Putting a big dual on a channel that isn't randomly there for niche sports fans helps get the sport added exposure. A lot more cable and streaming systems carry ESPN than they do ESPNU or ESPNews. Duals on ESPN and ESPN will have the opportunity for more eyeballs. Is it a huge deal? Maybe not, but it's definitely big. So is FS a huger deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: So Cassioppi, Assad, Brands, Siebrecht, Schriever, and PK will all be out then, still. 125 - Ayala 133 - Teske 141 - Woods 149 - Voinovich 157 - Franek 165 - Caliendo 174 - Swafford/Arnold/Rhodes 184 - Swafford/Arnold/Rhodes 197 - Franklin/Glazier 285 - Hill That is still a salty Dual Lineup... https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/perma/668/iowa-vs-iowa-state Keep in mind it has Chittum (ISU) and Arnold (Iowa) losing via bonus. Neither will happen if those Frosh take the mat. I think Arnold at 184 and Swafford at 174, unless the plan was for Swafford at 184 all along with Assad going up? Not sure. In any case Iowa will/should be fine even without the gents that are suspended. Both for this dual and for NCAAs. Feldkamp has decked better, bigger wrestlers than Arnold. Although, Arnold could do what he does best, and avoid actual wrestling positions, and keep it close. I would expect both Swiderski or Echemendia to beat Voinovich. I think State wins 149, 165, 174, 184, 197 and 285 if the suspensions are upheld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, Le duke said: Feldkamp has decked better, bigger wrestlers than Arnold. Although, Arnold could do what he does best, and avoid actual wrestling positions, and keep it close. I would expect both Swiderski or Echemendia to beat Voinovich. I think State wins 149, 165, 174, 184, 197 and 285 if the suspensions are upheld. He was also decked in there of his six loses last year, one of them being Chattanooga's Matthew Waddell. Add in the loss to a JuCo kid and this is more of a match than you are giving it credit for. Feldkamp had ONE (1) Top 50 win the entire season prior to NCAAs. I will admit that the ~14 Pins he had on the season should make anyone he goes up against a bit worried. That said, Arnold has a better chance to not get decked than Swafford (my opinion). "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, ionel said: With all the viewing options these days is this even a big deal? Definitely more people that get ESPN than Flo or BTN. Maybe ESPN realizes that with so many people cutting the cord, old grumpy wrestling fans make up a bigger percentage of viewers than they used to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, Le duke said: Feldkamp has decked better, bigger wrestlers than Arnold. Although, Arnold could do what he does best, and avoid actual wrestling positions, and keep it close. I would expect both Swiderski or Echemendia to beat Voinovich. I think State wins 149, 165, 174, 184, 197 and 285 if the suspensions are upheld. Here is Arnold avoiding wrestling against Nit recruit Connor Mirasola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Gus said: Here is Arnold avoiding wrestling against Nit recruit Connor Mirasola I don't get it. He was wrestling there. I don't think you understand what you're trying to say, here. Give us something where he wasn't doing anything. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I don't get it. He was wrestling there. I don't think you understand what you're trying to say, here. Give us something where he wasn't doing anything. Gabe is a great wrestler and fun to watch. My comment was in response to Le duke's "Although, Arnold could do what he does best, and avoid actual wrestling positions, and keep it close." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Gus said: Gabe is a great wrestler and fun to watch. My comment was in response to Le duke's "Although, Arnold could do what he does best, and avoid actual wrestling positions, and keep it close." Bro... my man... That air whooshing over your head? You hear it? I was with you the whole time. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, nhs67 said: Bro... my man... That air whooshing over your head? You hear it? I was with you the whole time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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