Dark Energy Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Clearly Penn State is #1. I’m pretty confident Iowa is #2 but someone can prove me wrong. Who would round out the top 5? I’ll call these the upper echelon of D1 wrestling now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 What are your stipulations?NCAA finish? All Americans? Champs? Dual wins? Dual Rank. Conference titles? Academic finish tied to placement? APR?Lots of ways to quantify an answer - just wondering where I should start with the data mining. 2 Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, Dark Energy said: Clearly Penn State is #1. I’m pretty confident Iowa is #2 but someone can prove me wrong. Who would round out the top 5? I’ll call these the upper echelon of D1 wrestling now. Iowa is absolutely number 2 based on average NCAA finish. Can't remember the rest off the top on my head. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Penn State number 1 Iowa or Ohio State number 2 and 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestMan Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just off my head without going back and doing the "homework", and with just a bit of home state bias: Michigan, Cornell, Mizzou. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Dark Energy said: Clearly Penn State is #1. I’m pretty confident Iowa is #2 but someone can prove me wrong. Who would round out the top 5? I’ll call these the upper echelon of D1 wrestling now. Will you accept Top 20 instead? 9 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 JB - open to people’s best thinking. Chart above looking like a good approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 But hold on! Clearly Smith is doing a horrible job at OSU and should be fired! 3 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: But hold on! Clearly Smith is doing a horrible job at OSU and should be fired! It is recency bias. He has had two rough finishes in the last 4 years. From 2019 they went 13, 3, 3, 14. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: But hold on! Clearly Ryan is doing a horrible job at OSU and should be fired! FIFY We hear this regularly... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Will you accept Top 20 instead? Another great job. Accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Will you accept Top 20 instead? So on average Penn St is not a national championship team and if we round to single digit they are a second place team. Will Penn St be looking for a new coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 Looks like Ohio State is clearly top 5 … strong case for 3. And yes OKState … I do admit to a recency bias! Data tells a story that I didn’t recall. All good. For past 10 yrs strong case for top 5 even if have slipped. Michigan on the other hand seems to have good momentum. Cornell and Mizzou … also options for top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwt1 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) But hold on! Clearly Dresser is doing a great job at ISU and should be coach of year! Edited October 29, 2023 by Hwt1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Honestly surprised how low ASU is on the list. I thought they would be closer to 10 than 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 6 hours ago, Gus said: Honestly surprised how low ASU is on the list. I thought they would be closer to 10 than 20. They are the inverse Oklahoma State. Their last four are seventh best. Their first six are not in the top twenty. 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 13 hours ago, Dark Energy said: Looks like Ohio State is clearly top 5 … strong case for 3. Clearly... 2013–14 6th 2014–15 1st 2015–16 3rd 2016–17 2nd 2017–18 2nd 2018–19 2nd 2019–20 Canceled 2020-21 9th 2021-22 13th 2022-23 4th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boconnell Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 21 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: It is recency bias. He has had two rough finishes in the last 4 years. From 2019 they went 13, 3, 3, 14. It's also an issue of expectations. When most teams have an occasional 14th, nobody cares. When OSU has one (or two), it's noteworthy. The same would be true if Iowa got a 14th. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Oops. Thank you all for not pointing out that I had failed to include 2023 results in my prior table. I appreciate your forbearance. Corrected: 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 Well, then that is 11 years. Please remove 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dark Energy said: Well, then that is 11 years. Please remove 2013. Why is it I see a potential 3 way bet between Ban, Bob and Wkn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dark Energy said: Well, then that is 11 years. Please remove 2013. No 2020. 2 minutes ago, ionel said: Why is it I see a potential 3 way bet between Ban, Bob and Wkn? No three way. Why do you wish bad things for me? 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Did a little something different with this one. Rather than look at schools I decided to look at coaches. Using the top 10 schools that have had the same head coach for at least the last five seasons (sorry Cornell) I looked at their individual and average finishes over their tenure. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Then I looked at the best five year run for each: Most interesting to me is that Manning is on his best 5 year run now in spite of the length of his career. Let's hear it @jajensen09 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said: No 2020. No three way. Why do you wish bad things for me? Ban bad, Bob bad, betting bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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