Gus Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Tuesday November 21 at 7 pm ET 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, Gus said: Tuesday November 21 at 7 pm ET https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/11356032-2023-nwca-all-star-classic-match-lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Really looking forward to Fly's prediction at 165 and wondering if Jimmy is willing to bet that Brooks will be wearing the new Nike Lift wrestling shoe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 The following are guaranteed: 125: Ramos dec Noto 133: Latona dec McGonagle 141: McNeil dec Carlson 149: Parco dec Van Ness 157: Haines dec Teemer 165: Hamiti dec Olejnik 174: Starocci dec Lewis 184: Keckeisen dec Truax 197: Brooks dec Sloan 285: Hendrickson dec Kerkvliet no bonus points in any matches. and all chalk other than 149 and HWT 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 42 minutes ago, Gus said: Tuesday November 21 at 7 pm ET So we're all operating under the assumption that Haines is the guy for Penn State at 157 then? Does that mean Messenbrink is Olyshirt or going 165? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, flyingcement said: The following are guaranteed: 125: Ramos dec Noto 133: Latona dec McGonagle 141: McNeil dec Carlson 149: Parco dec Van Ness 157: Haines dec Teemer 165: Hamiti dec Olejnik 174: Starocci dec Lewis 184: Keckeisen dec Truax 197: Brooks dec Sloan 285: Hendrickson dec Kerkvliet no bonus points in any matches. and all chalk other than 149 and HWT Almost right. The Jackrabbits win at 141 and 197 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, MidwestWrest said: So we're all operating under the assumption that Haines is the guy for Penn State at 157 then? Does that mean Messenbrink is Olyshirt or going 165? Mesenbrink is currently enrolled, meaning he can't Olyshirt. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I don't think we see Hendrickson there. They should try to tab Yonger Bastida as a replacement ASAP. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, nhs67 said: Mesenbrink is currently enrolled, meaning he can't Olyshirt. Does Mesenbrink have a regular redshirt available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Gus said: Does Mesenbrink have a regular redshirt available? Yep. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Mesenbrink is currently enrolled, meaning he can't Olyshirt. Guess that puts him at 165. Unless PSU is sending a potential backup to the All-Star Classic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Yep. Uh I don't think so. Thought he redshirted last year at Cal Bap? WrestleStat shows he already redshirted. Edited October 27, 2023 by MidwestWrest Update 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Wrestlestat: Ramos over Noto 6-5 https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/57134/ramos-matt/64642/noto-anthony Latona over McGonagal 7-4 https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/56742/latona-sam/56713/mcgonagle-connor McNeil over Carlson 7-6 https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/62891/mcneil-lachlan/56441/carlson-clay Van Ness over Parco 7-5 https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/71588/van-ness-shayne/58562/parco-kyle Haines over Teemer 7-4 https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/72657/haines-levi/50581/teemer-jacori Hamiti over Ol3jnik 9-4 https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/62894/hamiti-dean/56509/olejnik-izzak Stalrocci over Lewis 5-4 https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/58819/starocci-carter/49338/lewis-mekhi Keckeisen over Truax 8-4 https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/56724/keckeisen-parker/51133/truax-bernie Brooks over Sloan 8-5 https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/54280/brooks-aaron/56251/sloan-tanner Hendrickson over Kerkvliet 7-5 https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/61842/kerkvliet-greg/56694/hendrickson-wyatt BONUS: Kerkvliet over Bastida 5-4 https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/wrestler/61842/kerkvliet-greg/70963/bastida-yonger "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, MidwestWrest said: Uh I don't think so. Thought he redshirted last year at Cal Bap? WrestleStat shows he already redshirted. I for some reason read that as Haines. Haines does. Mesenbrink does not. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: I don't think we see Hendrickson there. I'm just hopeful we see him this season. That torque was nasty and hopefully just stretched the MCL with no ligament tears. Pure guts for gold and if he is healthy, he is taking home the trophy this year. Maybe Schultz would answer the call instead of ducking Kerk again? 2 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularStalling Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Wow, what a tough landing spot for Teemer after a year without any competition. Don’t think he wins this one, but he’s definitely a candidate to be a benefactor of the 3 point takedown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVStateChamp Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 3:48 PM, MidwestWrest said: So we're all operating under the assumption that Haines is the guy for Penn State at 157 then? Does that mean Messenbrink is Olyshirt or going 165? Not positive on this but I believe the all-star classic is not an official match. I would assume then Haines would be eligible to wrestle in this match and still have his redshirt in tact if that is the route PSU decides to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMW Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 50 minutes ago, JVStateChamp said: Not positive on this but I believe the all-star classic is not an official match. I would assume then Haines would be eligible to wrestle in this match and still have his redshirt in tact if that is the route PSU decides to go. With the new rules Haines could wrestle this and still be able to RS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVStateChamp Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, OMW said: With the new rules Haines could wrestle this and still be able to RS. I thought the new redshirt rules were only true freshmen get 5 weigh-ins before it uses a year of eligibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, JVStateChamp said: I thought the new redshirt rules were only true freshmen get 5 weigh-ins before it uses a year of eligibility. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYou Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Geez, why not make this PSU VS Best of the Rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, OMW said: With the new rules Haines could wrestle this and still be able to RS. It's not an official match, so yes, he'd be eligible to RS. He has both a normal AND OLY RS available. Both Messenbrink and Haines certified at "165", so between 157 and 165. Given that neither of them has made the move to get big enough to be a full-feed 165, I'm guessing one of them is taking a RS, and that Facundo will be the 165 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 They should give the fans what they really want. 157 should be Mesenbrink vs Haines. Since this isn't an official match, doesn't matter if they're on the same team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, JVStateChamp said: I thought the new redshirt rules were only true freshmen get 5 weigh-ins before it uses a year of eligibility. I thought so as well. IIRC a few schools interpreted it differently. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 48 minutes ago, Le duke said: It's not an official match, so yes, he'd be eligible to RS. He has both a normal AND OLY RS available. Both Messenbrink and Haines certified at "165", so between 157 and 165. Given that neither of them has made the move to get big enough to be a full-feed 165, I'm guessing one of them is taking a RS, and that Facundo will be the 165 this year. Again, we need clarification on Olympic redshirt rules. My understanding was you could not be enrolled and Olympic redshirt. None of the Michigan guys who Olyshirted a few years ago were enrolled for that reason. If that is the case, then Mesenbrink cannot Olyshirt. He is enrolled and an 'official' member of the team, since he did certify. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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