Jim Jordan does not like hard legislating

[Wrestleknownothing]

To paraphrase Terry (Tom?) Brands, Jim Jordan loves politicians, but he doesn't love legislating. I just read that in 16 years Jim Jordan has not gotten a single piece of legislation signed into law.

The Center for Effective Lawmaking ranked him 431st out of 435 Congressmen in the last Congress.

His bi-partisanship scores are in the same range. Only 3 members are below him.

And this is the best speaker candidate my fellow Republicans could come up with?

Edited October 17, 2023 by Wrestleknownothing

[Plasmodium]

10-20 people control this Congress.  He represents them.

[Offthemat]

That’s the way a lot of legislators work.  The speaker, I see more as a referee than an inventor. 

[WrestlingRasta]

59 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

That’s the way a lot of legislators work.  The speaker, I see more as a referee than an inventor. 

Great example except….he’s never been speaker. He’s only been a committee ranking member 4-5 years. 

[Offthemat]

6 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Great example except….he’s never been speaker. He’s only been a committee ranking member 4-5 years. 

It’s kind of sketchy attributing authorship of legislation.  Laws are written with a lot of legalese to make sure that they’re focused, and can contain loopholes for congressmen.  Jordan is a lawyer, and has little legislation in his name.  Pelosi, who is not a lawyer, has a lot of legislation.  Mostly resolutions, but to me, that means her staff did the work. 

[Ban Basketball]

8 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

To paraphrase Terry (Tom?) Brands

It was Terry. I remember seeing it. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 minute ago, Offthemat said:

It’s kind of sketchy attributing authorship of legislation.  Laws are written with a lot of legalese to make sure that they’re focused, and can contain loopholes for congressmen.  Jordan is a lawyer, and has little legislation in his name.  Pelosi, who is not a lawyer, has a lot of legislation.  Mostly resolutions, but to me, that means her staff did the work. 

If by little you mean zero, you would be correct. To me that means neither he, nor his staff, did any work.

[Plasmodium]

8 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

It’s kind of sketchy attributing authorship of legislation.  Laws are written with a lot of legalese to make sure that they’re focused, and can contain loopholes for congressmen.  Jordan is a lawyer, and has little legislation in his name.  Pelosi, who is not a lawyer, has a lot of legislation.  Mostly resolutions, but to me, that means her staff did the work. 

Jordan is not a lawyer.  He went to law school but he never practiced law or took a bar exam.

[Offthemat]

4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

If by little you mean zero, you would be correct. To me that means neither he, nor his staff, did any work.

Sure, that’s possible, but not likely.  There’s something to him that so many would be voting for him. 

[Plasmodium]

Just now, Offthemat said:

Sure, that’s possible, but not likely.  There’s something to him that so many would be voting for him. 

MAGA

[WrestlingRasta]

7 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

It’s kind of sketchy attributing authorship of legislation.  Laws are written with a lot of legalese to make sure that they’re focused, and can contain loopholes for congressmen.  Jordan is a lawyer, and has little legislation in his name.  Pelosi, who is not a lawyer, has a lot of legislation.  Mostly resolutions, but to me, that means her staff did the work. 

I mean, people can move the goal posts, wiggle waggle, and excuse the facts in any number of ways, and they will, people will for legislators on both sides of the aisle.

The relevant facts here are that in 18 years as a legislator, much of the last few with increasing influence, he has never passed a piece of legistlation, is currently under and defying a congressional subpeona, and is somehow close to being named speaker of that house. 

[Offthemat]

1 minute ago, Plasmodium said:

Jordan is not a lawyer.  He went to law school but he never practiced law or took a bar exam.

Okay, but he has the education.  

[Offthemat]

5 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

I mean, people can move the goal posts, wiggle waggle, and excuse the facts in any number of ways, and they will, people will for legislators on both sides of the aisle.

The relevant facts here are that in 18 years as a legislator, much of the last few with increasing influence, he has never passed a piece of legistlation, is currently under and defying a congressional subpeona, and is somehow close to being named speaker of that house. 

Well, I’m not too worried about it. 

[Ban Basketball]

9 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

MAGA

Dovetailing off of Soundgarden,  Ultra Maga Not OK.

[mspart]

If legislative record were the marker, Jim wouldn't be in the running.   Apparently that is not a thing.  Has Hakeem Jeffries passed lots of legislation he authored?  Is he qualified by his legislation writing prowess? I don't know, but he was up for the vote today.  

mspart

[Ban Basketball]

1 minute ago, mspart said:

If legislative record were the marker, Jim wouldn't be in the running.   Apparently that is not a thing.  Has Hakeem Jeffries passed lots of legislation he authored?  Is he qualified by his legislation writing prowess? I don't know, but he was up for the vote today.  

mspart

He's at least not a conspirator to trying to throw our votes and and overthrow a duly elected President. 

To me, there'd be no dispute over that one. 

[ionel]

31 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

If by little you mean zero, you would be correct. To me that means neither he, nor his staff, did any work.

Jordan saved use from more new stupid laws, or at least didn't contribute to the mess.  

[Offthemat]

Jeffries has a law degree and a list of legislation.  Some of it isn’t bad.  But he would be catastrophic as speaker.  

[Ban Basketball]

9 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Jeffries has a law degree and a list of legislation.  Some of it isn’t bad.  But he would be catastrophic as speaker.  

I agree! Why,  when I look for a speaker I look for someone who denies democracy,  tries to overthrow it,  and ignores subpoenas!

Freedom!

[Plasmodium]

35 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Jeffries has a law degree and a list of legislation.  Some of it isn’t bad.  But he would be catastrophic as speaker.  

We'll find out in 2025!

[Plasmodium]

After looking at Jim Jordan's resume, AOC will surely get a pass from MAGA on her bartender resume.  Wow, his is sparse AF and he is soon to be Speaker - third in line(?) to POTUS.

[Ban Basketball]

I like the word "catastrophic" as applied to someone who hasn't even hinted at "catastrophic" in his career. 

Funny how language is used to sound the dog whistle,  eh, friends?

Edited October 17, 2023 by Ban Basketball

[Ban Basketball]

8 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

After looking at Jim Jordan's resume, AOC will surely get a pass from MAGA on her bartender resume.  Wow, his is sparse AF and he is soon to be Speaker - third in line(?) to POTUS.

Yeah,  but he's an authoritarian.  That's the measuring stick as we stand today. 

As Joe Scarborough,  darling of the "tea party" and " not the brains of the outfit" said today,  " yes,  it CAN get worse. "

[WrestlingRasta]

59 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Jeffries has a law degree and a list of legislation.  Some of it isn’t bad.  But he would be catastrophic as speaker.  

But at least we’d get some alphabet raps

[Ban Basketball]

10 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

But at least we’d get some alphabet raps

Dog whistle sounded...NOW!