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  The more he's indicted, the stronger this former wrestler's political polling performance becomes...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-91-felony-charges-boosted-trump-s-standing-in-the-gop/ar-AA1i9IFh  

Is this anarchy?    Personally I think it's reflective of how a growing quantity of folks distrust the gubmint and feel it's weaponized against certain people who could otherwise jeopardize the in-crowd's gravy train and steady supply of our tax dollars.   But I fool myself (and at most a few others) if I fail to acknowledge that our national debt grew somewhere around $8 trillion (right?) during his four year presidency.   Still, at least with him in charge, certain special interests didn't try to pull as many stunts as saboteurs as they do now.   Knowing he was in the White House meant that for a few years, folks in the U.S. were less likely to rush to call one another "racist" and "sexist" and that sort of thing.   Even CNN was concerned about its image of being "fake news" after he publicly called it that during a press conference.   Call him what you will but that former wrestler is feisty.   And many folks polled respect and admire it.   I'm glad to have a wrestling background because the sport instills courage, among other things.   Aren't you glad to be a former wrestler, too?   

   Meanwhile...     

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When a twice impeached,  serial criminal, and convicted and admitted sex offender holds appeal,  it may be time to review one's moral standing. 

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16 hours ago, TitleIX is ripe for reform said:

  The more he's indicted, the stronger this former wrestler's political polling performance becomes...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-91-felony-charges-boosted-trump-s-standing-in-the-gop/ar-AA1i9IFh  

Is this anarchy?    Personally I think it's reflective of how a growing quantity of folks distrust the gubmint and feel it's weaponized against certain people who could otherwise jeopardize the in-crowd's gravy train and steady supply of our tax dollars.   But I fool myself (and at most a few others) if I fail to acknowledge that our national debt grew somewhere around $8 trillion (right?) during his four year presidency.   Still, at least with him in charge, certain special interests didn't try to pull as many stunts as saboteurs as they do now.   Knowing he was in the White House meant that for a few years, folks in the U.S. were less likely to rush to call one another "racist" and "sexist" and that sort of thing.   Even CNN was concerned about its image of being "fake news" after he publicly called it that during a press conference.   Call him what you will but that former wrestler is feisty.   And many folks polled respect and admire it.   I'm glad to have a wrestling background because the sport instills courage, among other things.   Aren't you glad to be a former wrestler, too?   

   Meanwhile...     

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Is he a former wrestler, or someone who tried wrestling. There’s a difference. 

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Is he a former wrestler, or someone who tried wrestling. There’s a difference. 

He did compete at the National Prep Championships for New York Military Academy in 1962 at 168. Future NCAA champ and NWHOF distinguished member Bill Harlow won the weight.
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3 hours ago, Ban Basketball said:

When a twice impeached,  serial criminal, and convicted and admitted sex offender holds appeal,  it may be time to review one's moral standing. 

    Your points are well taken.   FWIW, I didn't make this post to encourage folks to choose Donald Trump over other candidates.    But the guy seems to know how to fight off of his back in ways that thrill the crowds.   Resilience mixed with charisma can be impactful,  as his poll figures show.   

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     By the way, I'm not aware that he was ever criminally convicted of a sex offense, was he?   There was a civil dispute mixed with defamation allegations over something happening in bed nearly 30 years ago.   Donald Trump disputes that he lost but I think he wound up owing $1.5 million, earlier this year.   My knowledge of the dispute is admittedly fuzzy.    I think it was a New York jury that found against him.  I'm not surprised by that any more than I am by the pair of impeachments.    The process has become weaponized, and has lost prestige and importance in the minds of a growing quantity of folks.   

     Some folks think the impeachment of Bill Clinton was over-done and unnecessary.   But along the way he did say he didn't have an inappropriate relationship with that woman, Monica Lewinsky...  only for her dress to help disprove that.   Meanwhile he was being sued, maybe by Paula Jones, for alleged sexual harassment.   She got what... maybe just under $1 million as a settlement?  I don't recall the specifics and I'd rather research other things.   Like Monica jokes:

 https://upjoke.com/monica-lewinsky-jokes  

     As for Donald Trump's being a "serial criminal", I gather that he stated some of his properties were larger than they actually are.   The lenders and others were invited to consult their own experts to get informed alternative opinions.   If the figures were prepared and submitted quickly, without much concern for accuracy, I don't see that as fraud so much as being busy and having numerous priorities and sloppy at times.   As for the classified documents that he had with him, I'm admittedly more concerned but I also gather that Joe Biden (as V.P.) had plenty of those with him at his residence.   He wasn't prosecuted though.   He wasn't prosecuted for allegedly stealing another man's wife, either, even as alienation of affection is a thing in some (but remarkably few) states.  And as for Joe Biden's son Hunter...well... the layers of that onion are gradually being peeled back and we're learning some potentially interesting things.   

     Anyhow as you know, wrestling enables one to learn, early on, how to cope with adversity and proceed with optimism.   It seems that that rubbed off on Donald Trump.   It helps show why our sport's so worth preserving and cultivating, for men & women.     May he continue to bridge off of his back while preparing for making a reversal...   
  
    

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2 minutes ago, TitleIX is ripe for reform said:

    Your points are well taken.   FWIW, I didn't make this post to encourage folks to choose Donald Trump over other candidates.    But the guy seems to know how to fight off of his back in ways that thrill the crowds.   Resilience mixed with charisma can be impactful,  as his poll figures show.   

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     By the way, I'm not aware that he was ever criminally convicted of a sex offense, was he?   There was a civil dispute mixed with defamation allegations over something happening in bed nearly 30 years ago.   Donald Trump disputes that he lost but I think he wound up owing $1.5 million, earlier this year.   My knowledge of the dispute is admittedly fuzzy.    I think it was a New York jury that found against him.  I'm not surprised by that any more than I am by the pair of impeachments.    The process has become weaponized, and has lost prestige and importance in the minds of a growing quantity of folks.   

     Some folks think the impeachment of Bill Clinton was over-done and unnecessary.   But along the way he did say he didn't have an inappropriate relationship with that woman, Monica Lewinsky...  only for her dress to help disprove that.   Meanwhile he was being sued, maybe by Paula Jones, for alleged sexual harassment.   She got what... maybe just under $1 million as a settlement?  I don't recall the specifics and I'd rather research other things.   Like Monica jokes:

 https://upjoke.com/monica-lewinsky-jokes  

     As for Donald Trump's being a "serial criminal", I gather that he stated some of his properties were larger than they actually are.   The lenders and others were invited to consult their own experts to get informed alternative opinions.   If the figures were prepared and submitted quickly, without much concern for accuracy, I don't see that as fraud so much as being busy and having numerous priorities and sloppy at times.   As for the classified documents that he had with him, I'm admittedly more concerned but I also gather that Joe Biden (as V.P.) had plenty of those with him at his residence.   He wasn't prosecuted though.   He wasn't prosecuted for allegedly stealing another man's wife, either, even as alienation of affection is a thing in some (but remarkably few) states.  And as for Joe Biden's son Hunter...well... the layers of that onion are gradually being peeled back and we're learning some potentially interesting things.   

     Anyhow as you know, wrestling enables one to learn, early on, how to cope with adversity and proceed with optimism.   It seems that that rubbed off on Donald Trump.   It helps show why our sport's so worth preserving and cultivating, for men & women.     May he continue to bridge off of his back while preparing for making a reversal...   
  
    

He was just recently convicted of sexual abuse,  to which his parrots laughed at during a CNN townhall. 

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2 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

I am no fan of trump, that’s been well documented here.  But….wrong.  He did not face a criminal charge of sexual assault to be convicted. 

What was he found guilty of then? I didn't imagine it. 

Was it because if was a civil suit?

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I think so, but I am not 100% sure.   The allegations were over something that took place circa 1995, after all.   That's even worse than what Dan Masterson endured r/e 20+ year old allegations against him (landing him in jail for as many as 30 years if his appeal doesn't succeed).   Meanwhile Bill Cosby went to jail over 2005 charges, if I (vaguely) remember correctly before winning his appeal.      

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2 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

It was a lawsuit for defamation.

Please….tell us more about your prowess in education. 

I'm not an attorney,  and nor do I play one in the classroom or on the internet,  but is this not guilty of sexual abuse?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db

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6 minutes ago, Ban Basketball said:

I'm not an attorney,  and nor do I play one in the classroom or on the internet,  but is this not guilty of sexual abuse?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db

No, it’s liable for defamation. I suggest you educate yourself.  

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10 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

No, it’s liable for defamation. I suggest you educate yourself.  

I don't think you're right on that one,  Columbio. The first paragraph says it all,  and it ain't defamation. 

As the article later says,  " also found liable for defamation. "

What's that about eggakashun, Ziggy?  LOL!

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21 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

No, it’s liable for defamation. I suggest you educate yourself.  

Hopefully,  you don't have too much egg on yis face,  given your underground pawning of eggs to God knows who. 

Given as insistent as you were,  yis sure gotta be feeling like edgeakator done did school ya, my boy!

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1 hour ago, Jason Bryant said:


He did compete at the National Prep Championships for New York Military Academy in 1962 at 168. Future NCAA champ and NWHOF distinguished member Bill Harlow won the weight.

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1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

It was a lawsuit for defamation.

Please….tell us more about your prowess in education. 

Husker... eating some crow too, given your like of an incorrect statement?

Bottoms up!

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"Educate yourself. " Rasta wrestling when holding to an incorrect statement. 

Sounds like a new signature for me,  eh, friends?

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4 hours ago, Ban Basketball said:

I don't think you're right on that one,  Columbio. The first paragraph says it all,  and it ain't defamation. 

As the article later says,  " also found liable for defamation. "

What's that about eggakashun, Ziggy?  LOL!

Later on in the article it says:
"Trump did not attend the civil trial and was absent when the verdict was read."  

[His lawyer] defended Trump’s absence [for the entire trial], citing the trial’s “circus atmosphere.” He said having Trump there “would be more of a circus.”....Tacopina added: “What more can you say other than ‘I didn’t do it’?”

...ELSEWHERE the article says:

Trump, 76, denied it, saying he never encountered Carroll at the store and did not know her. He has called her a “nut job” who invented “a fraudulent and false story” to sell a memoir.

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You had initially asked which sex crime Inmate #PO1135809 had committed. 

That answer has been provided,  as Rasta Wrestling Food Truck done lernt from an eggacatur.

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24 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

It’s not over till the fat ladies and the black woman who can’t define what a woman is sing. 

Insert favorite dumb guy laugh...NOW!

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In civil trials, the burden of proof is merely a preponderance of the evidence (i.e. more probable than not).   It's not beyond a reasonable doubt which is what's usually applicable in criminal court.    The latter's considerably harder to prove.  So there's not a criminal conviction regarding the abovementioned case involving Donald Trump.     He didn't even show up to the civil trial, or acknowledge knowing the accuser.   Is she merely money-motivated?    Only she and hopefully Donald Trump know.   

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42 minutes ago, TitleIX is ripe for reform said:

In civil trials, the burden of proof is merely a preponderance of the evidence (i.e. more probable than not).   It's not beyond a reasonable doubt which is what's usually applicable in criminal court.    The latter's considerably harder to prove.  So there's not a criminal conviction regarding the abovementioned case involving Donald Trump.     He didn't even show up to the civil trial, or acknowledge knowing the accuser.   Is she merely money-motivated?    Only she and hopefully Donald Trump know.   

Yeah,  somehow he was found guilty of a sex crime. 

As Eddie says,  Ah dunno.

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My guess is that the defamation charges included one involving his saying she's lying about his alleged sexual mistreatment.   Calling someone a liar can be a type of defamation, according to some.    But he was not found liable for defamation regarding saying she's lying about having been actually raped.   

That said, I've not read the complaint against Trump so I'm just speculating.   Also, in civil court one is typically "liable" for a transgression, not "guilty" of committing it.   The guilty word's more relevant for criminal court.   

Hopefully these opinions & insights help demystify the process for you and others who are interested but puzzled.   Top notch, experienced legal thinkers get perplexed about these legal principles sometimes, too.   What matters is that you care, are interested, open-minded, and willing to admit when you might feel like you're puzzled.   Such traits make not only for better voters but also better members of a future jury.   Keep at it, for society's sake.  🙂

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