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#22 Campbell VS #24 Army - November 1st, 2023


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Greetings All,

Quickly put this together.  All 'Ratings' are via Wrestlestat and are just that - RATINGS.  I didn't use Wrestlestat's lineup as some of those guys aren't even listed on their rosters and are listed at different weights than on Wrestlestat...

That said... here you go.

#22 Campbell
WT - Rank Name - Class, 22/23 Record, Result(Notes)
125 - #50 Anthony Molton - JR, 13W-9L, 1W-2L @ SOCON
133 - #16 Domenic Zaccone - JR, 21W-7L, 1W-2L @ NCAA
141 - #38(149) Chris Rivera - JR, 11W-13L, 3W-1L @ SOCON (@149)
149 - #65 Justin Rivera - JR, 0W-0L, (11W-1L during RS @ 149/2021-22)
157 - #147 Hagen Heistand - FR, 12W-7L, Redshirt
165 - #54(157) Troy Nation - SR, 14W-7L, 3W-1L @ SOCON
174 - #31 Austin Murphy - SR, 0W-0L, (2W-1L @ SOCON 2021-22, R12 2020-21)
184 - #23 Caleb Hopkins - SR, 19W-10L, 0W-2L @ NCAA
197 - #16 Levi Hopkins - SR, 25W-10L, 1W-2L @ NCAA
285 - #13 Taye Ghadiali - SR, 27W-5L, 1W-2L @ NCAA

#24 Army
WT - Rank Name - Class, 22/23 Record, Result(Notes)
125 - #28 Ethan Berginc - SO, 27W-8L, 0W-2L @ NCAA
133 - #58 Ryan Franco - SO, 22W-11L, N/A (1W-3L in duals)
141 - #62 Richard Treanor - JR, 14W-15L, 1W-2L @ EIWA
149 - #28 Trae McDaniel - SO, 32W-11L, 4W-2L @ EIWA
157 - #36 Nathan Lukez - SR, 20W-14L, 0W-2L @ NCAAs
165 - #42 Dalton Harkins - JR, 18W-14L, 3W-3L @ EIWA
174 - #15 Ben Pasiuk - SR, 23W-7L, 1W-2L @ NCAA
184 - #94 Cole Karpinski - SO, 5W-7L, N/A (No dual starts)
197 - #103(184) Daniel Lawrence - SR, 12W-13L, 2W-3L @ EIWA
285 - #70 Austin Kohlofer - SO, 10W-8L, 2L-3L @ EIWA

https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/perma/663/campbell-vs-army-west-point

I think this is favoring Army a bit unfairly in a few weights.  I do think Zaccone at 133 and Rivera at 141 should be favored, despite the Wrestlestat algorythm favoring the other gent.  On the other end of the spectrum I don't see Murphy beating Pasiuk at 174.  I do think the Alaskan brothers Caleb and Levi Hopkins can push for bonus and that might be the separation that is needed for this.  Add in the Ghadiali is one of my sleepers for AA at 285 and that he might push for bonus (deckfall anyone?) and I do think Campbell ends up taking this one.  I will say one of the Hopkins gets the bonus, as does Pasiak.  That puts it at 16-13 heading into the HWT match and Ghadiali gets the fall.

Prediction: Campbell over Army 19-16

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7 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

It's been awhile since a good old match preview thread.  This offseason can't end soon enough.  This dual should be very close

I think so, too.

I will probably do a few more and might even have something speshul up my (our?) sleeve for one.

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2 hours ago, ionel said:

Are all required to post a singlet selfie on Ntl Singlet Day Nov 1?

Nobody is required to upload a selfie or video of them wearing a singlet on November 1, 2023 (aka National Singlet Day). However, if you want to win a prize package, then you'd better. The prize package includes an ILLINI Wrestling Blog and Forum and Beyond t-shirt, 2 Chunky bars and a piece of wire. 

On the other hand, what happens when you go out to the drug store or to your doctor's appointment or show up at your probation office for the monthly drug screen and everybody else is wearing their singlets? 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said:

Nobody is required to upload a selfie or video of them wearing a singlet on November 1, 2023 (aka National Singlet Day). However, if you want to win a prize package, then you'd better. The prize package includes an ILLINI Wrestling Blog and Forum and Beyond t-shirt, 2 Chunky bars and a piece of wire. 

On the other hand, what happens when you go out to the drug store or to your doctor's appointment or show up at your probation office for the monthly drug screen and everybody else is wearing their singlets? 

 

 

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I already have t-shirt, I'd just give the Chunky bars to my good buddy Wkn, but I really could use the wire.

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6 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Greetings All,

Quickly put this together.  All 'Ratings' are via Wrestlestat and are just that - RATINGS.  I didn't use Wrestlestat's lineup as some of those guys aren't even listed on their rosters and are listed at different weights than on Wrestlestat...

That said... here you go.

#22 Campbell
WT - Rank Name - Class, 22/23 Record, Result(Notes)
125 - #50 Anthony Molton - JR, 13W-9L, 1W-2L @ SOCON
133 - #16 Domenic Zaccone - JR, 21W-7L, 1W-2L @ NCAA
141 - #38(149) Chris Rivera - JR, 11W-13L, 3W-1L @ SOCON (@149)
149 - #65 Justin Rivera - JR, 0W-0L, (11W-1L during RS @ 149/2021-22)
157 - #147 Hagen Heistand - FR, 12W-7L, Redshirt
165 - #54(157) Troy Nation - SR, 14W-7L, 3W-1L @ SOCON
174 - #31 Austin Murphy - SR, 0W-0L, (2W-1L @ SOCON 2021-22, R12 2020-21)
184 - #23 Caleb Hopkins - SR, 19W-10L, 0W-2L @ NCAA
197 - #16 Levi Hopkins - SR, 25W-10L, 1W-2L @ NCAA
285 - #13 Taye Ghadiali - SR, 27W-5L, 1W-2L @ NCAA

#24 Army
WT - Rank Name - Class, 22/23 Record, Result(Notes)
125 - #28 Ethan Berginc - SO, 27W-8L, 0W-2L @ NCAA
133 - #58 Ryan Franco - SO, 22W-11L, N/A (1W-3L in duals)
141 - #62 Richard Treanor - JR, 14W-15L, 1W-2L @ EIWA
149 - #28 Trae McDaniel - SO, 32W-11L, 4W-2L @ EIWA
157 - #36 Nathan Lukez - SR, 20W-14L, 0W-2L @ NCAAs
165 - #42 Dalton Harkins - JR, 18W-14L, 3W-3L @ EIWA
174 - #15 Ben Pasiuk - SR, 23W-7L, 1W-2L @ NCAA
184 - #94 Cole Karpinski - SO, 5W-7L, N/A (No dual starts)
197 - #103(184) Daniel Lawrence - SR, 12W-13L, 2W-3L @ EIWA
285 - #70 Austin Kohlofer - SO, 10W-8L, 2L-3L @ EIWA

https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/perma/663/campbell-vs-army-west-point

I think this is favoring Army a bit unfairly in a few weights.  I do think Zaccone at 133 and Rivera at 141 should be favored, despite the Wrestlestat algorythm favoring the other gent.  On the other end of the spectrum I don't see Murphy beating Pasiuk at 174.  I do think the Alaskan brothers Caleb and Levi Hopkins can push for bonus and that might be the separation that is needed for this.  Add in the Ghadiali is one of my sleepers for AA at 285 and that he might push for bonus (deckfall anyone?) and I do think Campbell ends up taking this one.  I will say one of the Hopkins gets the bonus, as does Pasiak.  That puts it at 16-13 heading into the HWT match and Ghadiali gets the fall.

Prediction: Campbell over Army 19-16

I don’t know much about Chris Rivera, but what makes you think he even starts over Hanna?  Hanna was a NQ last year and had a few pretty decent wins, the best probably being over Kal Miller of Maryland who went 2-2 at NCAA’s.  Meanwhile Rivera doesn’t really have any noteworthy wins in 2 full seasons.  

 

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6 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Quickly put this together.  All 'Ratings' are via Wrestlestat and are just that - RATINGS.  I didn't use Wrestlestat's lineup as some of those guys aren't even listed on their rosters and are listed at different weights than on Wrestlestat...

Prediction: Campbell over Army 19-16

 

Excellent! I love these and do one for every ILLINI dual. Wrestlestat.com is extremely handy for this kind of write-up. As you suggest, it should be close. I like both teams a lot. 

Army has three ILLINOIS kids on the roster, but none of them are starters. Campbell has two kids from the Land of Lincoln on their roster, and both of them start (Molton and Zaccone). Furthermore, Zaccone was an ILLINI for one year but had the unfortunate luck to be a redshirt the same season as one Lucas Byrd. He's tough, and I agree that he should be favored.

Can't wait for the fun to begin! Cheers! 

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1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

I don’t know much about Chris Rivera, but what makes you think he even starts over Hanna?  Hanna was a NQ last year and had a few pretty decent wins, the best probably being over Kal Miller of Maryland who went 2-2 at NCAA’s.  Meanwhile Rivera doesn’t really have any noteworthy wins in 2 full seasons.  

 

Rivera is dropping from 149 to 141 and Hanna isn't listed on the roster - per the official roster list.

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Campbell has 9.9 right?  I noticed they have a pretty experienced team.

Molton - 5th year

Zaccone - 5th year

Hanna - 5th year

Justin Rivera - 4th year 

Nation - 6th year

Murphy - 6th year 

Caleb Hopkins - 6th year

Levi Hopkins - 5th year

Ghadiali - 5th year

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3 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Campbell has 9.9 right?  I noticed they have a pretty experienced team.

Molton - 5th year

Zaccone - 5th year

Hanna - 5th year

Justin Rivera - 4th year 

Nation - 6th year

Murphy - 6th year 

Caleb Hopkins - 6th year

Levi Hopkins - 5th year

Ghadiali - 5th year

I am not positive on the 9.9 but Campbell has always (since Kolat) done a good job of retaining their wrestlers as well as had unusually large roster. Some years Campbell had closer to 40 members listed on their team roster. Seems like their strategy is to cast a big net. 

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