nhs67 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) Greetings All, Quickly put this together. All 'Ratings' are via Wrestlestat and are just that - RATINGS. I didn't use Wrestlestat's lineup as some of those guys aren't even listed on their rosters and are listed at different weights than on Wrestlestat... That said... here you go. #22 Campbell WT - Rank Name - Class, 22/23 Record, Result(Notes) 125 - #50 Anthony Molton - JR, 13W-9L, 1W-2L @ SOCON 133 - #16 Domenic Zaccone - JR, 21W-7L, 1W-2L @ NCAA 141 - #38(149) Chris Rivera - JR, 11W-13L, 3W-1L @ SOCON (@149) 149 - #65 Justin Rivera - JR, 0W-0L, (11W-1L during RS @ 149/2021-22) 157 - #147 Hagen Heistand - FR, 12W-7L, Redshirt 165 - #54(157) Troy Nation - SR, 14W-7L, 3W-1L @ SOCON 174 - #31 Austin Murphy - SR, 0W-0L, (2W-1L @ SOCON 2021-22, R12 2020-21) 184 - #23 Caleb Hopkins - SR, 19W-10L, 0W-2L @ NCAA 197 - #16 Levi Hopkins - SR, 25W-10L, 1W-2L @ NCAA 285 - #13 Taye Ghadiali - SR, 27W-5L, 1W-2L @ NCAA #24 Army WT - Rank Name - Class, 22/23 Record, Result(Notes) 125 - #28 Ethan Berginc - SO, 27W-8L, 0W-2L @ NCAA 133 - #58 Ryan Franco - SO, 22W-11L, N/A (1W-3L in duals) 141 - #62 Richard Treanor - JR, 14W-15L, 1W-2L @ EIWA 149 - #28 Trae McDaniel - SO, 32W-11L, 4W-2L @ EIWA 157 - #36 Nathan Lukez - SR, 20W-14L, 0W-2L @ NCAAs 165 - #42 Dalton Harkins - JR, 18W-14L, 3W-3L @ EIWA 174 - #15 Ben Pasiuk - SR, 23W-7L, 1W-2L @ NCAA 184 - #94 Cole Karpinski - SO, 5W-7L, N/A (No dual starts) 197 - #103(184) Daniel Lawrence - SR, 12W-13L, 2W-3L @ EIWA 285 - #70 Austin Kohlofer - SO, 10W-8L, 2L-3L @ EIWA https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/perma/663/campbell-vs-army-west-point I think this is favoring Army a bit unfairly in a few weights. I do think Zaccone at 133 and Rivera at 141 should be favored, despite the Wrestlestat algorythm favoring the other gent. On the other end of the spectrum I don't see Murphy beating Pasiuk at 174. I do think the Alaskan brothers Caleb and Levi Hopkins can push for bonus and that might be the separation that is needed for this. Add in the Ghadiali is one of my sleepers for AA at 285 and that he might push for bonus (deckfall anyone?) and I do think Campbell ends up taking this one. I will say one of the Hopkins gets the bonus, as does Pasiak. That puts it at 16-13 heading into the HWT match and Ghadiali gets the fall. Prediction: Campbell over Army 19-16 Edited October 12, 2023 by nhs67 6 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 It's been awhile since a good old match preview thread. This offseason can't end soon enough. This dual should be very close 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, flyingcement said: It's been awhile since a good old match preview thread. This offseason can't end soon enough. This dual should be very close I think so, too. I will probably do a few more and might even have something speshul up my (our?) sleeve for one. 3 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Can't believe the season has arrived. Took forever, but went so quick.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creek chub Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Is it televised or streamed anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wrestleknownothing Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: I think so, too. I will probably do a few more and might even have something speshul up my (our?) sleeve for one. Tease Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Are all required to post a singlet selfie on Ntl Singlet Day Nov 1? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, ionel said: Are all required to post a singlet selfie on Ntl Singlet Day Nov 1? Singlets are for the puritanically modest. Try a speedo. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Just now, Wrestleknownothing said: Singlets are for the puritanically modest. Try a speedo. You first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, ionel said: Are all required to post a singlet selfie on Ntl Singlet Day Nov 1? Nobody is required to upload a selfie or video of them wearing a singlet on November 1, 2023 (aka National Singlet Day). However, if you want to win a prize package, then you'd better. The prize package includes an ILLINI Wrestling Blog and Forum and Beyond t-shirt, 2 Chunky bars and a piece of wire. On the other hand, what happens when you go out to the drug store or to your doctor's appointment or show up at your probation office for the monthly drug screen and everybody else is wearing their singlets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said: Nobody is required to upload a selfie or video of them wearing a singlet on November 1, 2023 (aka National Singlet Day). However, if you want to win a prize package, then you'd better. The prize package includes an ILLINI Wrestling Blog and Forum and Beyond t-shirt, 2 Chunky bars and a piece of wire. On the other hand, what happens when you go out to the drug store or to your doctor's appointment or show up at your probation office for the monthly drug screen and everybody else is wearing their singlets? I already have t-shirt, I'd just give the Chunky bars to my good buddy Wkn, but I really could use the wire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 6 hours ago, nhs67 said: Greetings All, Quickly put this together. All 'Ratings' are via Wrestlestat and are just that - RATINGS. I didn't use Wrestlestat's lineup as some of those guys aren't even listed on their rosters and are listed at different weights than on Wrestlestat... That said... here you go. #22 Campbell WT - Rank Name - Class, 22/23 Record, Result(Notes) 125 - #50 Anthony Molton - JR, 13W-9L, 1W-2L @ SOCON 133 - #16 Domenic Zaccone - JR, 21W-7L, 1W-2L @ NCAA 141 - #38(149) Chris Rivera - JR, 11W-13L, 3W-1L @ SOCON (@149) 149 - #65 Justin Rivera - JR, 0W-0L, (11W-1L during RS @ 149/2021-22) 157 - #147 Hagen Heistand - FR, 12W-7L, Redshirt 165 - #54(157) Troy Nation - SR, 14W-7L, 3W-1L @ SOCON 174 - #31 Austin Murphy - SR, 0W-0L, (2W-1L @ SOCON 2021-22, R12 2020-21) 184 - #23 Caleb Hopkins - SR, 19W-10L, 0W-2L @ NCAA 197 - #16 Levi Hopkins - SR, 25W-10L, 1W-2L @ NCAA 285 - #13 Taye Ghadiali - SR, 27W-5L, 1W-2L @ NCAA #24 Army WT - Rank Name - Class, 22/23 Record, Result(Notes) 125 - #28 Ethan Berginc - SO, 27W-8L, 0W-2L @ NCAA 133 - #58 Ryan Franco - SO, 22W-11L, N/A (1W-3L in duals) 141 - #62 Richard Treanor - JR, 14W-15L, 1W-2L @ EIWA 149 - #28 Trae McDaniel - SO, 32W-11L, 4W-2L @ EIWA 157 - #36 Nathan Lukez - SR, 20W-14L, 0W-2L @ NCAAs 165 - #42 Dalton Harkins - JR, 18W-14L, 3W-3L @ EIWA 174 - #15 Ben Pasiuk - SR, 23W-7L, 1W-2L @ NCAA 184 - #94 Cole Karpinski - SO, 5W-7L, N/A (No dual starts) 197 - #103(184) Daniel Lawrence - SR, 12W-13L, 2W-3L @ EIWA 285 - #70 Austin Kohlofer - SO, 10W-8L, 2L-3L @ EIWA https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/perma/663/campbell-vs-army-west-point I think this is favoring Army a bit unfairly in a few weights. I do think Zaccone at 133 and Rivera at 141 should be favored, despite the Wrestlestat algorythm favoring the other gent. On the other end of the spectrum I don't see Murphy beating Pasiuk at 174. I do think the Alaskan brothers Caleb and Levi Hopkins can push for bonus and that might be the separation that is needed for this. Add in the Ghadiali is one of my sleepers for AA at 285 and that he might push for bonus (deckfall anyone?) and I do think Campbell ends up taking this one. I will say one of the Hopkins gets the bonus, as does Pasiak. That puts it at 16-13 heading into the HWT match and Ghadiali gets the fall. Prediction: Campbell over Army 19-16 I don’t know much about Chris Rivera, but what makes you think he even starts over Hanna? Hanna was a NQ last year and had a few pretty decent wins, the best probably being over Kal Miller of Maryland who went 2-2 at NCAA’s. Meanwhile Rivera doesn’t really have any noteworthy wins in 2 full seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 6 hours ago, nhs67 said: Quickly put this together. All 'Ratings' are via Wrestlestat and are just that - RATINGS. I didn't use Wrestlestat's lineup as some of those guys aren't even listed on their rosters and are listed at different weights than on Wrestlestat... Prediction: Campbell over Army 19-16 Excellent! I love these and do one for every ILLINI dual. Wrestlestat.com is extremely handy for this kind of write-up. As you suggest, it should be close. I like both teams a lot. Army has three ILLINOIS kids on the roster, but none of them are starters. Campbell has two kids from the Land of Lincoln on their roster, and both of them start (Molton and Zaccone). Furthermore, Zaccone was an ILLINI for one year but had the unfortunate luck to be a redshirt the same season as one Lucas Byrd. He's tough, and I agree that he should be favored. Can't wait for the fun to begin! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, 1032004 said: I don’t know much about Chris Rivera, but what makes you think he even starts over Hanna? Hanna was a NQ last year and had a few pretty decent wins, the best probably being over Kal Miller of Maryland who went 2-2 at NCAA’s. Meanwhile Rivera doesn’t really have any noteworthy wins in 2 full seasons. Rivera is dropping from 149 to 141 and Hanna isn't listed on the roster - per the official roster list. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: Rivera is dropping from 149 to 141 and Hanna isn't listed on the roster - per the official roster list. Yes he is https://gocamels.com/sports/wrestling/roster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, ionel said: I already have t-shirt, I'd just give the Chunky bars to my good buddy Wkn, but I really could use the wire. Damn. I wanted the wire. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corby Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 My guess would be Hanna 141 and Dom Baker 165 for Campbell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share Posted October 13, 2023 6 hours ago, 1032004 said: Yes he is https://gocamels.com/sports/wrestling/roster Well I missed that. Even so, sue me. I would appreciate seeing yours, mate. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgaveMaria Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 The best looking wrestling mat around. Gable Steveson is kicking himself for not transferring to wrestle on this mat. ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, AgaveMaria said: The best looking wrestling mat around. Gable Steveson is kicking himself for not transferring to wrestle on this mat. At least it doesn't hurt much because he has no shoes on. I saw where he left them in Detroit. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: Well I missed that. Even so, sue me. I would appreciate seeing yours, mate. Lol I like your analysis, just trying to create some discussion! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Campbell has 9.9 right? I noticed they have a pretty experienced team. Molton - 5th year Zaccone - 5th year Hanna - 5th year Justin Rivera - 4th year Nation - 6th year Murphy - 6th year Caleb Hopkins - 6th year Levi Hopkins - 5th year Ghadiali - 5th year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVStateChamp Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Campbell has 9.9 right? I noticed they have a pretty experienced team. Molton - 5th year Zaccone - 5th year Hanna - 5th year Justin Rivera - 4th year Nation - 6th year Murphy - 6th year Caleb Hopkins - 6th year Levi Hopkins - 5th year Ghadiali - 5th year I am not positive on the 9.9 but Campbell has always (since Kolat) done a good job of retaining their wrestlers as well as had unusually large roster. Some years Campbell had closer to 40 members listed on their team roster. Seems like their strategy is to cast a big net. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, AgaveMaria said: The best looking wrestling mat around. Gable Steveson is kicking himself for not transferring to wrestle on this mat. He just couldn't get over the hump to transfer! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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