WrestlingRasta Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Good god 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 1/25/2024 at 10:43 AM, uncle bernard said: I think what @WrestlingRasta and I would say... Hmmm... got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/my-fellow-palestinians-it-s-time-to-get-rid-of-our-leaders-and-accept-israel-s-offers-for-peace-opinion/ar-BB1houbp?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=a79e8841fd4b417796e3be5dcde07ef2&ei=21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 yeah, but they don’t want to ethnically cleanse gaza…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 hours ago, uncle bernard said: yeah, but they don’t want to ethnically cleanse gaza…. This gathering was organized by a far-right group, not the Israeli government. The Israeli government has made it clear that this is not their intention at all. Doesn't seem quite right that you left that (very important) part out. In today's climate of misinformation and protesters being paid by competing governments, it's impossible to say. That far-right group may be supported by external forces. Maybe some Arab countries, maybe Israeli citizens. Nobody knows just yet. We shall see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: This gathering was organized by a far-right group, not the Israeli government. The Israeli government has made it clear that this is not their intention at all. Doesn't seem quite right that you left that (very important) part out. In today's climate of misinformation and protesters being paid by competing governments, it's impossible to say. That far-right group may be supported by external forces. Maybe some Arab countries, maybe Israeli citizens. Nobody knows just yet. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 removing a group (that continually engages in terrorism) does not = genocide, you disingenuous dope. also, good morning. TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 18 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: removing a group (that continually engages in terrorism) does not = genocide, you disingenuous dope. also, good morning. Palestinians /= Hamas. 25,000 dead, overwhelmingly civilians, is genocidal behavior. The ICJ just found South Africa’s charge of genocide to be plausible in its preliminary hearing and ordered Israel to prevent further genocidal actions/incitement and also preserve evidence for hearings to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 lmfao at South Africa 'charging genocide' 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 27 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: lmfao at South Africa 'charging genocide' why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 29 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: why? Because South Africa is playing politics to look like theyre the poster child for human rights. The ICJ didn’t even order a cease fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 multiple war crimes on camera in this one instance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Hamas getting a taste of its own medicine. All of a sudden it’s bad when Israel does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 Exactly...and the intent of why Israel did it versus the intent of the terrorist group is drastically different. Que UB coming to the defense of Hamas.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braves121 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: Hamas getting a taste of its own medicine. All of a sudden it’s bad when Israel does it. Israel is an actual country with a government that has ratified the geneva conventions. I personally think they should be held to a higher standard than a terror organization and not commit war crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 13 minutes ago, braves121 said: Israel is an actual country with a government that has ratified the geneva conventions. I personally think they should be held to a higher standard than a terror organization and not commit war crimes. Well I personally think hamas shouldn’t use kids as human shields. which is far worse (lower standard) than anything Isreal has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 16 minutes ago, braves121 said: Israel is an actual country with a government that has ratified the geneva conventions. I personally think they should be held to a higher standard than a terror organization and not commit war crimes. Oh and hamas is the government there. They haven’t let it’s people vote in over a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, braves121 said: Israel is an actual country with a government that has ratified the geneva conventions. I personally think they should be held to a higher standard than a terror organization and not commit war crimes. This is complete nonsense. Here is what you are proposing. Let Hamas do what they want and retreat like cowards. Don't allow Israel to forcefully find these miscreants. If Israel somehow gets ahold of them, they can put them on trial only. Israel cannot declare war on Hamas no matter what Hamas does to them. That is where your line of illogic leads. Hamas was brutal and indiscriminate. Israel has the right to do the same. You will notice Israel took no unilateral action until Hamas attacked. There was a peace so to speak. Israel did not decide to invade Gaza. Gaza decided to invade Israel. And now Israel cannot defend itself. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 1/26/2024 at 11:27 PM, GreatWhiteNorth said: Hmmm... got it. https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-lifestyle/mndots-name-a-snowplow-2024-contest-winners-announced did you win ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 hours ago, braves121 said: Israel is an actual country with a government that has ratified the geneva conventions. I personally think they should be held to a higher standard than a terror organization and not commit war crimes. Why? So, the terrorists can continue freely taking 'pot shots' and planning 'smash and grabs' on Israel? Nope. That ended on 10/7. That behavior became no longer acceptable. Then it got ugly and continues to be ugly. But no uglier than terrorism. I suspect that is the root of any and all disagreement here. Some think terrorism is justifiable - others of us do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyhoyle Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 8 hours ago, braves121 said: Israel is an actual country with a government that has ratified the geneva conventions. I personally think they should be held to a higher standard than a terror organization and not commit war crimes. What did Israel do to violate the Geneva conventions? We celebrated and then made a movie about the U.S. "illegally" entering Pakistan to kill Bin Laden. We accept that the military is allowed to kill members of terrorist organizations-is that such a terrible thing? Edited January 31 by billyhoyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 1/30/2024 at 5:21 AM, uncle bernard said: Palestinians /= Hamas. 25,000 dead, overwhelmingly civilians, is genocidal behavior. The ICJ just found South Africa’s charge of genocide to be plausible in its preliminary hearing and ordered Israel to prevent further genocidal actions/incitement and also preserve evidence for hearings to come. Genocidal behavior would be to wipe out all Gazans. Has that been attempted? mspart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 22 hours ago, mspart said: Genocidal behavior would be to wipe out all Gazans. Has that been attempted? mspart that is not the actual definition of genocide. "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group." 25,000+ dead and rising and almost all of Gaza levelled including most of their civil infrastructure. This campaign is clearly aimed at ethnically cleansing Gaza for Israeli settlement, dispersing the survivors into neighboring countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: If you want to make an argument why don't you post the actual link to the Guardian article/map instead of some X post that could be anything and has no time stamp info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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