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20 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

Can you answer my question?  You honestly believe Hamas ceases to exist if Israeli's just packed up and left?  They would just give up all their power they now have over Palestinians? 

Absolutely they would not. they would become more violent.

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On 10/28/2023 at 1:14 PM, Husker_Du said:

Palestine elects Hamas leaders. Hamas commits atrocities to Israel. Israel responds. And it's the international community that should foot the bill?

the best end to this story is Israel once and for all taking over the entire state. 

let the countries that fund terror take in their proxies. 

The majority of Gaza were toddlers or not yet born the last time Hamas got “elected” with 44% of the vote. 

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50 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

It would be better if you all would just come out and say you support ethnically cleansing Gaza. The way you talk about Palestinians makes it clear you don’t think they’re capable of peaceful, human behavior, so why pretend you don’t think Israel should wipe them off the map?

I applaud your general concern for Palestinians.  I honestly think it's commendable.  But, we're talking about Hamas.  An organization that is repressive to it's own citizens

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4 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

The majority of Gaza were toddlers or not yet born the last time Hamas got “elected” with 44% of the vote. 

so what? because they were toddlers when their parents elected terrorists to their parliament means the rest of the world is responsible to rebuild their terrorist state? 

TBD

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37 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

so what? because they were toddlers when their parents elected terrorists to their parliament means the rest of the world is responsible to rebuild their terrorist state? 

Rebuild it into not a terrorist state, yes.  The alternative will be for Iran to rebuild it into a terrorist state.   Not many good options, maybe Fatah can be supported to consolidate control.

 

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14 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

Rebuild it into not a terrorist state, yes.  

 

and when it becomes a terrorist state again, people like you and Uncle 'Nard will say 'America started that.'

the only way this ends mildly stable is if Israel takes over the entire strip and the Palestinians transation to other muslim nations.

the alternative is that this goes on till the end of time.

TBD

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4 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

and when it becomes a terrorist state again, people like you and Uncle 'Nard will say 'America started that.'

the only way this ends mildly stable is if Israel takes over the entire strip and the Palestinians transation to other muslim nations.

the alternative is that this goes on till the end of time.

Willie on the record as pro ethnic cleansing. A refreshing amount of honesty compared to the rest of you cowards. Still disgusting though. 

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16 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

Rebuild it into not a terrorist state, yes.  The alternative will be for Iran to rebuild it into a terrorist state.   Not many good options, maybe Fatah can be supported to consolidate control.

 

Id like to offer Gavin Newsome for the job of seeing this through.  He’s got experience overseeing oceanfront properties.  I believe he was there applying for a the position just last week.  He’ll keep everything kosher-er environmentally impactless.  It might go a little slow, and cost a little more than expected, but it could be just like California when finished.  Well, parts of California, anyway. 

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1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

Willie on the record as pro ethnic cleansing. A refreshing amount of honesty compared to the rest of you cowards. Still disgusting though. 

Not at all, his post doesn't promote "pro ethnic cleansing." You're trying to twist facts, and that is pathetic.

If you don't have reality on your side, better to bow out.

Trying to warp reality to fit ongoing nonsense posts is a waste of all of our time, including you.

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2 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Not at all, his post doesn't promote "pro ethnic cleansing." You're trying to twist facts, and that is pathetic.

If you don't have reality on your side, better to bow out.

Trying to warp reality to fit ongoing nonsense posts is a waste of all of our time, including you.

He explicitly endorsed ethnic cleansing. He says it’s the only solution. 

“the only way this ends mildly stable is if Israel takes over the entire strip and the Palestinians transation to other muslim nations”

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Just now, uncle bernard said:

He explicitly endorsed ethnic cleansing. He says it’s the only solution. 

No he doesn’t.  If Israel was going to ethnically cleanse their country would you think they’d be allowing the Arabs/Palestinians/Muslims that live in Israel, outside of Gaza, and serve in the Knesset to stay?  There is no support for ethnic cleansing, there is a war on terrorists and those aiding and abetting them. 

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6 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

It would be better if you all would just come out and say you support ethnically cleansing Gaza. The way you talk about Palestinians makes it clear you don’t think they’re capable of peaceful, human behavior, so why pretend you don’t think Israel should wipe them off the map?

You've got it all wrong in that post.

Hamas is in the business of ethnic cleansing - their goal is to destroy all Israelis. Hamas are the modern-day Nazi bastards.

Israel is only targeting Hamas in self-defense, not Palestinian civilians. They have no intention of ethnic cleansing. Only seeking to keep themselves safe.

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1 minute ago, Offthemat said:

No he doesn’t.  If Israel was going to ethnically cleanse their country would you think they’d be allowing the Arabs/Palestinians/Muslims that live in Israel, outside of Gaza, and serve in the Knesset to stay?  There is no support for ethnic cleansing, there is a war on terrorists and those aiding and abetting them. 

the only way this ends mildly stable is if Israel takes over the entire strip and the Palestinians transation to other muslim nations”

this is, by definition, ethnic cleansing. 

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1 minute ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

You've got it all wrong in that post.

Hamas is in the business of ethnic cleansing - their goal is to destroy all Israelis. Hamas are the modern-day Nazi bastards.

Israel is only targeting Hamas in self-defense, not Palestinian civilians. They have no intention of ethnic cleansing. Only seeking to keep themselves safe.

If in the process of targeting Hamas, they forcibly remove 2 million Palestinians from their land, that’s ethnic cleansing. It doesn’t matter if you think they did it for a good reason. 

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2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

the only way this ends mildly stable is if Israel takes over the entire strip and the Palestinians transation to other muslim nations”

this is, by definition, ethnic cleansing. 

Transition (what I think he meant) does not meet the definition.  

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Just now, Offthemat said:

Transition (what I think he meant) does not meet the definition.  

What are you talking about? That is the literal definition of ethnic cleansing. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing

“Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, and religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making a region ethnically homogeneous. Along with direct removal, extermination, deportation or population transfer, it also includes indirect methods aimed at forced migration by coercing the victim group to flee and preventing its return, such as murder, rape, and property destruction.”

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2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

If in the process of targeting Hamas, they forcibly remove 2 million Palestinians from their land, that’s ethnic cleansing. It doesn’t matter if you think they did it for a good reason. 

Where did I say that Israeli will "forcibly remove 2 million Palestinians from their land"? I never said that.

What I said was:

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Hamas is in the business of ethnic cleansing - their goal is to destroy all Israelis. Hamas are the modern-day Nazi bastards.

Israel is only targeting Hamas in self-defense, not Palestinian civilians. They have no intention of ethnic cleansing. Only seeking to keep themselves safe.

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