Offthemat Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Plasmodium said: His views ignore degradation as a desirable outcome of laws, culture and social policy. It is dumb. Then you’re not familiar with his writing. He’s written whole books covering those topics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said: Pretty extreme view to say that everything either falls into this, or it falls into that. No thanks. That’s a misfire, not anywhere near what he is saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 50 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Then you’re not familiar with his writing. He’s written whole books covering those topics. ? I am familiar with what I am reading, which is credited to him. Maybe he has a lot of time on his hands and writes whole books of nonsense covering those topics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Offthemat said: That’s a misfire, not anywhere near what he is saying. I know….I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: ? I am familiar with what I am reading, which is credited to him. Maybe he has a lot of time on his hands and writes whole books of nonsense covering those topics http://www.tsowell.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Plasmodium said: His views ignore degradation as a desirable outcome of laws, culture and social policy. It is dumb. where did he suggest that? TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Plasmodium said: Sowell's view is absolute nonsense. these kinds of posts happen way to often on here. waste of time and pointless. 'that's stupid' 'that's wrong' just make a rebuttal with substance. you do this often as does GWN and BB TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Plasmodium said: ? I am familiar with what I am reading, which is credited to him. Maybe he has a lot of time on his hands and writes whole books of nonsense covering those topics I've read a lot os Sowell's work and although I may disagree with a lot of his conclusions I've always found him to be thoughtful and his work far from being labeled nonsense 3 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lipdrag Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 21 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Facts don't change. That's what makes them facts. Something else changed. Now, what could that be . . . 21 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Don't be shy. Go ahead and give us your conspiracy theory. I am not even sure of the context that led to an original post of (paraphrasing) "directly related to the number of times the facts changed". So I have no theory, conspiratorial or otherwise, on said context. I was commenting only about the nature of a fact and its immutable nature. My last sentence was meant to be slyly provocative so I guess it accomplished that. However, I am sorry to disappoint with the very constrained focus of my comments on facts and have no conspiracy theory with which to entertain my brethren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lipdrag Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 13 hours ago, jross said: Yet, not a single new fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Sowell is a bought and paid for pawn. Anyone that absolutist is always off of the mark. 1 Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 18 hours ago, uncle bernard said: not a single person on here claimed it was lmao go back and read @Offthemat post more carefully. You're tiresome. Maybe you should read through the thread double carefully. Nothing has changed. Still - dataforprogress.org is NOT the same site as progress.org at a different page. Going to the correct site MATTERS, in a huge way. Tricking people into going to an unintended site is a tried-and-true way for cyber bad guys to trick people. The closer people pay attention the better. Don't try to downplay it. You help nobody by doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Husker_Du said: these kinds of posts happen way to often on here. waste of time and pointless. 'that's stupid' 'that's wrong' just make a rebuttal with substance. you do this often as does GWN and BB 1 hour ago, PortaJohn said: I've read a lot os Sowell's work and although I may disagree with a lot of his conclusions I've always found him to be thoughtful and his work far from being labeled nonsense Meh. He is stupid and wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 17 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said: No need, you’re doing well enough. You missed the last half of my post -- the one where I was waiting for the point you were trying to make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: You missed the last half of my post -- the one where I was waiting for the point you were trying to make? Hypocrisy, it’s fun to point it out and watch them squirm. I could write out a big long post full of word salad to help make it more clear but…..nah. Done here, enjoy. Edited October 24, 2023 by WrestlingRasta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 12 hours ago, Husker_Du said: these kinds of posts happen way to often on here. waste of time and pointless. 'that's stupid' 'that's wrong' just make a rebuttal with substance. you do this often as does GWN and BB willie you just described at least half your posts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 10 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: You're tiresome. Maybe you should read through the thread double carefully. Nothing has changed. Still - dataforprogress.org is NOT the same site as progress.org at a different page. Going to the correct site MATTERS, in a huge way. Tricking people into going to an unintended site is a tried-and-true way for cyber bad guys to trick people. The closer people pay attention the better. Don't try to downplay it. You help nobody by doing that. i’m going to put you out of your misery. you misread @Offthemat post. he said “data for progress.org” the spaces likely from autocorrect. “progress.org” isn’t a a major site of any kind. in fact, it’s less reliable than dataforprogress.org, which is a well established major polling center. you are the only one on here who doesn’t understand that or thought anybody was trying to confuse the two sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 shameless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 16 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said: Hypocrisy, it’s fun to point it out and watch them squirm. I could write out a big long post full of word salad to help make it more clear but…..nah. Done here, enjoy. We are all here to share opinions, that is the very point of being here. You claimed I was some sort of lecturer. Yet, of the two of us, you're the only one giving a lecture. I have no problems with you or your posts. But if you judge, expect a response. If you don't like that - then maybe, you should choose to not cast judgement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 13 hours ago, uncle bernard said: i’m going to put you out of your misery. you misread @Offthemat post. he said “data for progress.org” the spaces likely from autocorrect. “progress.org” isn’t a a major site of any kind. in fact, it’s less reliable than dataforprogress.org, which is a well established major polling center. you are the only one on here who doesn’t understand that or thought anybody was trying to confuse the two sites. I see what you're saying except the VERY important points: data for "progress.org" does NOT equal "dataforprogress.org" data for "google.com" does NOT equal "dataforgoogle.com" data for "apple.com" does NOT equal "dataforapple.com" ...don't blame "autocorrect" - that's just lame These are details that very much matter. This is the exact kind of trick that internet bad guys use to try to trick people into following links. Offthemat made a specific point to tell everyone they were the same thing, when they clearly weren't. I don't know that poster, but anyone with any internet security experience would know better than to trust anyone who posted in this manner. Go back and read the thread - my point was always that the two sites were not the same site. Refuting Offthemat's claim that they were the same site. Admit that simple fact and let it go, or just go away. Don't try to change history with a line of BS. I'm not OK with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 12 hours ago, uncle bernard said: shameless. According to Chay, those Hamas mass murderers and hostage takers were really good, kind people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: I see what you're saying except the VERY important points: data for "progress.org" does NOT equal "dataforprogress.org" data for "google.com" does NOT equal "dataforgoogle.com" data for "apple.com" does NOT equal "dataforapple.com" ...don't blame "autocorrect" - that's just lame These are details that very much matter. This is the exact kind of trick that internet bad guys use to try to trick people into following links. Offthemat made a specific point to tell everyone they were the same thing, when they clearly weren't. I don't know that poster, but anyone with any internet security experience would know better than to trust anyone who posted in this manner. Go back and read the thread - my point was always that the two sites were not the same site. Refuting Offthemat's claim that they were the same site. Admit that simple fact and let it go, or just go away. Don't try to change history with a line of BS. I'm not OK with that. Could you make all your posts with red ink? Just as a warning to unsuspecting readers who might be trying to decipher the meaning behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 12 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: I see what you're saying except the VERY important points: data for "progress.org" does NOT equal "dataforprogress.org" data for "google.com" does NOT equal "dataforgoogle.com" data for "apple.com" does NOT equal "dataforapple.com" ...don't blame "autocorrect" - that's just lame These are details that very much matter. This is the exact kind of trick that internet bad guys use to try to trick people into following links. Offthemat made a specific point to tell everyone they were the same thing, when they clearly weren't. I don't know that poster, but anyone with any internet security experience would know better than to trust anyone who posted in this manner. Go back and read the thread - my point was always that the two sites were not the same site. Refuting Offthemat's claim that they were the same site. Admit that simple fact and let it go, or just go away. Don't try to change history with a line of BS. I'm not OK with that. You might be the stupidest man I've ever encountered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Another investigative team finds the Israeli misfire theory not credible. Edited October 25, 2023 by uncle bernard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) A day after Blinken asks Al Jazeera to tone down its rhetoric, Israel kills the family of their Gaza Bureau Chief in an air strike. Israel has a long history of targeting journalists. Edited October 25, 2023 by uncle bernard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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