uncle bernard Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 20 minutes ago, ionel said: If you want to make an argument why don't you post the actual link to the Guardian article/map instead of some X post that could be anything and has no time stamp info. https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2024/jan/30/how-war-destroyed-gazas-neighbourhoods-visual-investigation The tweet allowed you to see the map without clicking on a link. The actual article is much more detailed and horrifying. It would have been pretty easy for you to google "Guardian Gaza map" if you were actually interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2024/jan/30/how-war-destroyed-gazas-neighbourhoods-visual-investigation The tweet allowed you to see the map without clicking on a link. The actual article is much more detailed and horrifying. It would have been pretty easy for you to google "Guardian Gaza map" if you were actually interested. Maybe if you subscribe to X, didn't when I clicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, uncle bernard said: that is not the actual definition of genocide. "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group." 25,000+ dead and rising and almost all of Gaza levelled including most of their civil infrastructure. This campaign is clearly aimed at ethnically cleansing Gaza for Israeli settlement, dispersing the survivors into neighboring countries. So what most every Arab nation wants to do to Israel? And that the Palestinians just tried. Got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 But remember it is all ok. Hamas is not a government of a country and can do what they want. Israel is and must abide by Geneva Conventions. Granted this is a paraphrase from UB but essentially his position. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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uncle bernard Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 hours ago, mspart said: But remember it is all ok. Hamas is not a government of a country and can do what they want. Israel is and must abide by Geneva Conventions. Granted this is a paraphrase from UB but essentially his position. mspart you can keep trying to straw man me all you want because you know you can’t address my actual position because it reveals the barbarism behind yours. hamas is bad. that doesn’t mean you get to kill civilians with mass bombings. we decided that as a global community after the horror of the world wars and for good reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 15 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: you can keep trying to straw man me all you want because you know you can’t address my actual position because it reveals the barbarism behind yours. hamas is bad. that doesn’t mean you get to kill civilians with mass bombings. we decided that as a global community after the horror of the world wars and for good reason. You also don't get to call it genocide when it demonstrably isn't. If Israel wanted genocide there would be a million or two million killed already. But surprisingly, for a genocide, the death toll is not even close to that. You say Hamas is bad but then turn around and say Israel is way worse and should stop the genocide. So your position is exactly what most of us on here think. mspart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 7 hours ago, uncle bernard said: hamas is bad. that doesn’t mean you get to kill civilians with mass bombings. we decided that as a global community after the horror of the world wars and for good reason. Hamas isn't "bad." Hamas is a whiny little terrorist shit show. Just a-holes that should be put down like dogs. They hide behind civilian neighborhoods and in hospitals like the little turds they are. Ultimately, it won't work. It'll get ugly, but the terrorists will be put down. That's the corner we find ourselves in. It's on them for behaving like cowards hiding among civilians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 10 hours ago, uncle bernard said: you can keep trying to straw man me all you want because you know you can’t address my actual position because it reveals the barbarism behind yours. hamas is bad. that doesn’t mean you get to kill civilians with mass bombings. we decided that as a global community after the horror of the world wars and for good reason. Bad?????? You’re a clown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I heard this this morning. https://www.nationalreview.com/news/students-at-school-run-by-u-n-palestinian-aid-agency-boast-about-wanting-to-murder-jews-in-shocking-video/ Students at a school in East Jerusalem run by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) were recorded in a recently resurfaced video explaining how they’ve been taught to murder Jews and take part in the generational struggle to reclaim land which they believe belongs to Palestinians. The documentary was shot in 2022 in a school in the Shuafat refugee camp in East Jerusalem and recently resurfaced amid the ongoing Israel-Hamas war. In the video, students who appear to be as young as seven or eight years old tell an interviewer “we have been taught that the Jews kill our children.” “Stabbing and trampling Jews brings respect to the Palestinians,” says another child. Another student explains that she is “ready to carry out a suicide attack.” This UN agency needs to be disbanded. I also heard that the head of the agency in Gaza was terminated due to Hamas request. This is what our tax dollars to the UN pay for. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Hamas holding children hostage is indefensible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 The open border is about creating a one party state. Prove me wrong 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 72 virgins. That’s funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 This is a "War" between Israel and Hamas. An actual war for Israel's very existence. How the f' does that not register for some people? It is wartime and it will get ugly - war is never pretty - why are people bitchin' about the ugly? Maybe directly deliver that shit to Hamas for not only starting the war, but for continually attempting to start a war for years on end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WrestlingRasta Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Surely the cry will be that he was running away so they should have stopped shooting. (No) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On 1/30/2024 at 6:17 AM, uncle bernard said: why? bc this, brainiac 1 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 21 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: bc this, brainiac This is exactly why you need to stop getting your opinions from tweets. This quote is from a traditional anti-apartheid song. This guy was kicked out of the ANC years ago for stuff like this. The ANC is the government pursuing charges against Israel. And no, he could not "very possibly" be elected Prime Minister in a few months lol. His new party is the third largest party in the country. They got 11% of the vote in 2019 and are expected to come in around 15% this time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On 2/5/2024 at 12:21 PM, WrestlingRasta said: Surely the cry will be that he was running away so they should have stopped shooting. (No) Nobody is mad at Israel for killing Hamas fighters or people who attack soldiers. Those are legitimate combatants in an armed conflict. We're mad that for every instance like this, Israel is killing hundreds (if not thousands) of people who aren't combatants, including thousands of infants and children, by levelling Gaza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I notice you are not calling it genocide anymore. That's progress. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Data shows that even under Hamas accounting, non-combatant casualty rates are far below the level of Iraq and Afghanistan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 uh, there are glimmers of genocide in SA not just that guy in the clip. SA, in any way shape or form criticizing anyone of genocide is rich. 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/whats-the-truth-about-south-africas-genocide-of-white-farmers/ 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 23 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/whats-the-truth-about-south-africas-genocide-of-white-farmers/ 50 murders? Wait until you hear about the 25,000+ in Gaza. Be serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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