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If I lived in Singapore I am not sure if I would want a car even without this fee, but with this fee, absolutely not. But it doesn't even need to be a city state as densely packed as Singapore. My son lives in Chicago and does not own a car, and says he will never own a car. It is part of city living.

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I was able to spend some time in Singapore (a friends first UFC fight was there) and everything just works there, that’s the best way to describe it. People get in lines, the streets are clean, everything is orderly and makes sense 

With that said, the government is heavy handed and culturally different from America - I don’t think what they do would work for us on a grand scale 

However, I would love to take back some of their things back to the US - paying government employees private market wages so we have a competent government and aren’t wasting tax dollars training folks for the private market or keeping on idiots because that’s all we can get… 

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Wow...awesome pictures!

My brother who was in the Navy for 27 years, said Singapore was one of his very favorite places to visit in the world...for how beautiful it is and for all the things it offers for a 20 something year old...wink wink...lol

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It is a nice city, just huge.   Now I was there for 3 days only so I'm not a great resource.   I generally just don't like big cities and the thought of living in them gives me hives.   I live near Seattle, but not in Seattle.   I lived near Minneapolis but not in Minneapolis.   I lived near Honolulu but not in Honolulu. 

I have visited big cities all over, Singapore being one of them.   The heat and humidity didn't kill me there and there is plenty of that.  It was a nice place and I know expats that are very happy there.   It's just not my cup of herbal tea. 

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1 hour ago, nick said:

paying government employees private market wages

Do you think they would take the pay cut without protest?  5 of the 7 richest counties as tabulated by median household income in America are FULL of government workers.

1 Loudoun County Virginia Virginia $147,111
2 Falls Church Virginia Virginia $146,922
3 Santa Clara County California California $130,890
4 San Mateo County California California $128,091
5 Fairfax County Virginia Virginia $127,866
6 Howard County Maryland Maryland $124,042
7 Arlington County Virginia Virginia $122,604

 

I suspect if you did a more detailed statistical study you would also find the standard deviation to be much tighter in those DC area counties indicating that it is not the super rich and their servants living in the same county like you might get in California.  It is just a bunch of extremely well compensated bureaucrats running around talking to each other on our dime.  On our millions of dimes per household.

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1 hour ago, Lipdrag said:

Do you think they would take the pay cut without protest?  5 of the 7 richest counties as tabulated by median household income in America are FULL of government workers.

1 Loudoun County Virginia Virginia $147,111
2 Falls Church Virginia Virginia $146,922
3 Santa Clara County California California $130,890
4 San Mateo County California California $128,091
5 Fairfax County Virginia Virginia $127,866
6 Howard County Maryland Maryland $124,042
7 Arlington County Virginia Virginia $122,604

 

I suspect if you did a more detailed statistical study you would also find the standard deviation to be much tighter in those DC area counties indicating that it is not the super rich and their servants living in the same county like you might get in California.  It is just a bunch of extremely well compensated bureaucrats running around talking to each other on our dime.  On our millions of dimes per household.

I wonder what percentage of those government jobs are related to defense

I'm just talking from anecdotal experiences, a family member of mine worked for the Department of Commerce for 20+ years (in Indiana, not DC) and always had a rotating group since people left for more money and the performance was always not great. At the local level, we can't fill positions since pay is not remotely comparable (granted this topic is more national but still)

To me, if we are getting poor services, then generally its because we are hiring bottom of the barrel - pretty generalized and based on your stats not applicable to the DC folks, but the average salary at my local big government institution is $17 an hour, which is less than what Amazon is paying...

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