MPhillips Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, Wrestleknownothing said: Just finished dinner with the family. What did I miss? Oh the sights we have seen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Just finished dinner with the family. What did I miss? A nice back and forth argument because you weren't here to put all the relevant data in a nice table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, ionel said: A nice back and forth argument because you weren't here to put all the relevant data in a nice table. He's not wrong youknow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, Brooklyn Dodger said: I was asking whether 117-1 counted Gable's redshirt wins, not Smiths, as there is a discrepancy in his reported records. ahh ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, ionel said: ahh ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, MPhillips said: He's not wrong youknow... know I didn't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, ionel said: know I didn't know Well you're not a knownothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, MPhillips said: Well you're not a knownothing... Do you knowsomething I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, MPhillips said: Well you're not a knownothing... There can be but one. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, PortaJohn said: Do you knowsomething Nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, Brooklyn Dodger said: I am not "generally misinformed." I was misinformed about whether the brackets posted the pre-tournament record or the post-tournament record. I guess I assumed the records were pre-tournament as the brackets are printed before the tourney starts. So - this is implying that you were looking at hard paper brackets printed before each NCAA tourney to get his record. Not digital brackets that you looked up online. Since digital brackets you are looking at online were not, in fact, printed before each tourney. I am betting that you are looking at digital brackets. Not printed brackets that you printed off before each NCAA tourney. Did I win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 So is Double Down Dan now Double Down Dodger? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Dark Energy said: So - this is implying that you were looking at hard paper brackets printed before each NCAA tourney to get his record. Not digital brackets that you looked up online. Since digital brackets you are looking at online were not, in fact, printed before each tourney. I am betting that you are looking at digital brackets. Not printed brackets that you printed off before each NCAA tourney. Did I win? You're about to go into the vortex brother... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Dodger Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dark Energy said: So - this is implying that you were looking at hard paper brackets printed before each NCAA tourney to get his record. Not digital brackets that you looked up online. Since digital brackets you are looking at online were not, in fact, printed before each tourney. I am betting that you are looking at digital brackets. Not printed brackets that you printed off before each NCAA tourney. Did I win? It's not implying that. I know the NCAA prints brackets with records before the tournament and after. I assumed that they updated the brackets as the tournament goes on, but did not change how the names and records were stated as of Round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, ionel said: A nice back and forth argument because you weren't here to put all the relevant data in a nice table. @Wrestleknownothing This. It is your fault that DanTheMan made it in as well. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, nhs67 said: @Wrestleknownothing This. It is your fault that DanTheMan made it in as well. Dan is the gift that keeps on giving. You guys should be thanking me. And you are welcome. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwark Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I had always thought that Gable's streak was 100. But some say it's 98 or 117 (which apparently counts his true freshman/unattached wins). The 100 number was oft-restated when Cael broke the record. An AP article at the time said: "Cael Sanderson, unbeaten in his college wrestling career, matched an Iowa State record with his 100th consecutive match victory Sunday. Sanderson scored five takedowns before pinning Hofstra’s Ralph Everett at the 4:04 mark of the 184-pound match and tying Dan Gable’s school record that Iowa State lists as 100 consecutive victories from 1967-70. The NCAA does not keep such records, and other records have put Gable’s streak at 98." Weird that the NCAA does not keep the record. The Iowa State record book credits Gable with 100 wins, which would mean his win-streak was also 100. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Damn it, Dan is back? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwark Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, VakAttack said: Damn it, Dan is back? will give you something to bitch about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwark Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Anyway, if Yianni win his first 26, which looks to include the Cliff Keen and the National Collegiate Duals, he'll be able to claim the second longest D1 win streak ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 NJ Dan was our greatest fear in this entire venture. 2 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bulwark said: Anyway, if Yianni win his first 26, which looks to include the Cliff Keen and the National Collegiate Duals, he'll be able to claim the second longest D1 win streak ever. Those in the know seem to be skeptical that he will wrestle Cliff Keen. Regardless of the total, it has been an amazing career. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Yianni’s streak is 75. Kemp’s wiki applies current rules to results that counted at the time. I have his entire record in a doc after he called me in 2018 wondering why he wasn’t listed in ESPN’s graphic Wrestling records in published reports are almost always suspect in the pre-computerization era due to wrestling’s penchant for absolutely stupid rules on what does and doesn’t count. Also, streaks that bridge the era of divisional splits also adds confusion, such as some athletes that competed in the college division, D2 and D3 included and others who did the same excluded. I’ve been trying to validate win streaks for years and it’s not easy. I’ve got a pretty robust list on my computer (it might also be accessible via a subscriber link but I’d have to double check) 1 Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwark Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: NJ Dan was our greatest fear in this entire venture. You mean because he started the most popular thread in this board's young life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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