The fringe have the power and they rule by psychological dysfunction (pathocracy)

[jross]

What does Christopher Rufo say that is wrong?

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/21/2023 at 9:49 PM, Threadkilla said:

Twist it anyway you want,  you are still stupid.  

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Kind of ironic,  given that I'm right and you're wrong. 

[Gus]

  On 9/22/2023 at 3:11 PM, Ban Basketball said:

Kind of ironic,  given that I'm right and you're wrong. 

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So, Ban, do you honestly think that as a society, we should allow children to be castrated?

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/22/2023 at 3:27 PM, Gus said:

So, Ban, do you honestly think that as a society, we should allow children to be castrated?

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They aren't being castrated. 

There's just no limit to what 30% of us will buy today. 

[Gus]

  On 9/22/2023 at 3:34 PM, Ban Basketball said:

They aren't being castrated. 

There's just no limit to what 30% of us will buy today. 

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There are 100% children that are undergoing sex change operations. What those operations are is castration, either physical or chemical. 

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/22/2023 at 3:41 PM, Gus said:

There are 100% children that are undergoing sex change operations. What those operations are is castration, either physical or chemical. 

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No, they're not.

There's a carload of information out there where you can legitimately eggertate yisself, but,  of course,  you won't. 

[Gus]

  On 9/22/2023 at 3:44 PM, Ban Basketball said:

No, they're not.

There's a carload of information out there where you can legitimately eggertate yisself, but,  of course,  you won't. 

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There are children in my own community that are being chemically castrated an there are children all around the country that are. You need to educate yourself on the carload of information that is available that backs my claim.

Why do you think the medical community does not stand up and say that this is all wrong? Taking the body and altering it to do something that it is not intended to do results in horrible health. Instead of getting these people the mental health help and counseling that they need, the medical community is completely fine with telling them to pursue sex change. Why? Because when a young person makes that decision, the medical community is in for a 7 figure paycheck over the lifetime or that person. It will be a life riddled with surgeries, chemicals, medication and severe physical and mental health issues. 

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/22/2023 at 3:49 PM, Gus said:

There are children in my own community that are being chemically castrated an there are children all around the country that are. You need to educate yourself on the carload of information that is available that backs my claim.

Why do you think the medical community does not stand up and say that this is all wrong? Taking the body and altering it to do something that it is not intended to do results in horrible health. Instead of getting these people the mental health help and counseling that they need, the medical community is completely fine with telling them to pursue sex change. Why? Because when a young person makes that decision, the medical community is in for a 7 figure paycheck over the lifetime or that person. It will be a life riddled with surgeries, chemicals, medication and severe physical and mental health issues. 

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No, they're not. 

[Bigbrog]

Great comeback ...anywho, I personally couldn't care less what an adult does to their body, who they sleep with, how they identify themselves, etc.; however, in the subject of children, you'd have to be out of your freaking mind to take a child and alter/remove their sexual organs, or give them drugs to change their natural sexual development hormones...absolutely disgusting for people to defend doing this to kids.  These are KIDS!!!  How can people not get that?!?!

[Gus]

  On 9/22/2023 at 3:51 PM, Ban Basketball said:

No, they're not. 

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Why else would they be granting elective surgeries and medications that puts people in much worse health than when they walked in? Is not the intent of the hospital to improve ones health and not worsen it??

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/22/2023 at 4:50 PM, Gus said:

Why else would they be granting elective surgeries and medications that puts people in much worse health than when they walked in? Is not the intent of the hospital to improve ones health and not worsen it??

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They aren't. 

[Gus]

  On 9/22/2023 at 4:51 PM, Ban Basketball said:

They aren't. 

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They are. Physical and chemical castration is absolutely terrible for a persons heath.

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/22/2023 at 4:54 PM, Gus said:

They are. Physical and chemical castration is absolutely terrible for a persons heath.

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For children,  yes,  which is why parents can't have their kids castrated. 

Ironically,  I just walked out of my physician's office,  who literally LOL'd when I told him about our back and forth. 

So, no,  they aren't. 

[Gus]

  On 9/22/2023 at 5:04 PM, Ban Basketball said:

For children,  yes,  which is why parents can't have their kids castrated. 

Ironically,  I just walked out of my physician's office,  who literally LOL'd when I told him about our back and forth. 

So, no,  they aren't. 

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Keep living in your fantasy world 70%er

[Plasmodium]

Who pays for all these castrations?  I reckon these kids save up their allowance or run lemonade stands and the doctors union requires pro bono work so the parents don't have to be involved.

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/22/2023 at 5:06 PM, Gus said:

Keep living in your fantasy world 70%er

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As he said, "just like physicians are aborting infants after birth,  I'm guessing,  right!?"

We both got a good laugh out of that one!

[Gus]

  On 9/22/2023 at 5:14 PM, Plasmodium said:

Who pays for all these castrations?  I reckon these kids save up their allowance or run lemonade stands and the doctors union requires pro bono work so the parents don't have to be involved.

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It's paid through the parents insurance just like any other medical costs for children. 

[Gus]

  On 9/22/2023 at 5:17 PM, Ban Basketball said:

As he said, "just like physicians are aborting infants after birth,  I'm guessing,  right!?"

We both got a good laugh out of that one!

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https://apnews.com/article/gender-transition-treatment-guidelines-9dbe54f670a3a0f5f2831c2bf14f9bbb

Just because you and the doc are eggercccateerred doesn't mean that you are not idiots. Kids are being chemically and physically castrated before adulthood. It's not hard to find the research and guidelines that show it. 

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/22/2023 at 5:27 PM, Gus said:

https://apnews.com/article/gender-transition-treatment-guidelines-9dbe54f670a3a0f5f2831c2bf14f9bbb

Just because you and the doc are eggercccateerred doesn't mean that you are not idiots. Kids are being chemically and physically castrated before adulthood. It's not hard to find the research and guidelines that show it. 

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No,  they're not.  The very article says no chillen.

I read info from medical sites,  and heard from a practickin physician. 

Edited September 22, 2023 by Ban Basketball

[jross]

Abortions have occurred after birth.  It's documented.

Castrations have occurred to kids.  It's documented.

But why is this discussed... unless some crazy folks are talking about making it common and legal to do... or perhaps transitioning without parental permission?  

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/22/2023 at 6:16 PM, jross said:

Abortions have occurred after birth.  It's documented.

Castrations have occurred to kids.  It's documented.

But why is this discussed... unless some crazy folks are talking about making it common and legal to do... or perhaps transitioning without parental permission?  

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No,  neither have happened. 

One is homicide,  and the other is not happnin with chillen.

[jross]

Do you know what genital surgery is frequently performed on children's genitals without the child's consent?  Circumcision.  WTF!  

[Ban Basketball]

This site is the best material for my fantasy is reality and reality is fantasy presentations that I do. 

The best part? All of you are doing my work for me,  and it's free!

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/22/2023 at 6:18 PM, jross said:

Do you know what genital surgery is frequently performed on children's genitals without the child's consent?  Circumcision.  WTF!  

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Not castration. 

This is madness.  I've never seen anything like this!

[jross]

  On 9/22/2023 at 6:18 PM, Ban Basketball said:

No,  neither have happened. 

One is homicide,  and the other is not happnin with chillen.

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Abortion is homicide.

And yes, child genital cutting is occurring (rarely) to children.

 

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Phalloplasty, for example, is almost never performed on minors. In its current guidelines, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) recommends against considering the procedure prior to adulthood: “Given the complexity of phalloplasty, and current high rates of complications in comparison to other gender-affirming surgical treatments, it is not recommended this surgery be considered in youth under 18 at this time” [72, p.S66]. Vaginoplasty, though still uncommon before age 18, is less rare and is increasingly performed in older adolescents. According to a 2017 survey of 20 WPATH-affiliated surgeons based in the United States, more than half reported that they had performed vaginoplasty in legal minors (contrary to WPATH guidance at the time), with 1–20 cases per surgeon and an age range of 15 to 17 years for the affected individuals [73]. The survey authors state that the specialist surgeons who perform vaginoplasty on transgender minors “have, without exception, refrained from publishing any peer-reviewed outcome data or technical articles on this small but increasingly important population” [73, p. 225]. Thus, the available data on physical and mental health outcomes for minors who have undergone vaginoplasty “are limited” [72, p. S66]. It has also been reported that “masculinizing” mastectomies are increasingly performed in younger populations, including adolescents [74], to relieve significant dysphoria associated with pubertal breast growth [75]. As our edited collection concerns specifically genital cutting or surgery, which has a different risk profile and raises distinct ethical questions, it does not cover modifications of secondary sex characteristics.  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41443-022-00639-4#Fn1

Earp, B.D., Abdulcadir, J. & Liao, LM. Child genital cutting and surgery across cultures, sex, and gender. Part 1: female, male, intersex—and trans? The difficulty of drawing distinctions. Int J Impot Res 35, 1–5 (2023). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41443-022-00639-4

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Edited September 22, 2023 by jross