Hillbilly Jim Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Time for NCAA Wrestling. Who do you think is underrated on the list and why? I got some bets to make... Tournament Rankings RANK SCHOOL CONFERENCE POINTS NCAA FINISH 1 Penn State Big Ten 141.5 1 2(T) Missouri Big 12 65 5 2(T) Virginia Tech ACC 65 9 4 Cornell EIWA 62.5 3 5 Nebraska Big Ten 57.5 8 6 Michigan Big Ten 55.5 6 7 Arizona State Pac-12 54 7 8 Iowa Big Ten 48 2 9 NC State ACC 46 10 10 Oklahoma State Big 12 43 18(T) 11 Iowa State Big 12 38.5 11 12 Ohio State Big Ten 33 4 13 Rutgers Big Ten 26 34 14(T) Illinois Big Ten 25.5 31 14(T) Oklahoma Big 12 25.5 40 14(T) South Dakota State Big 12 25.5 14 17 Northern Iowa Big 12 25 16(T) 18(T) Northern Colorado Big 12 23.5 23 18(T) Wisconsin Big Ten 23.5 16(T) 20 Oregon State Pac-12 23 29 21 North Carolina ACC 22.5 12 22 Minnesota Big Ten 21.5 15 23 Purdue Big Ten 20 20(T) 24 Air Force Big 12 18 18(T) 25 Lock Haven MAC 17 30 26 Penn EIWA 16.5 32 27 Pittsburgh ACC 13 22 28 Indiana Big Ten 11 38 29 Lehigh EIWA 10 20(T) 30 Maryland Big Ten 9.5 36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, Hillbilly Jim said: Time for NCAA Wrestling.   Is it September already?  2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardamu911 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 where can you bet on NCAA wrestling? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, Bardamu911 said: where can you bet on NCAA wrestling? Ask Bob, Ban &/or Jimmy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted September 21, 2023 Author Share Posted September 21, 2023 I will start. I think Ohio St. will finish higher than this ranking and Arizona St. will finish a bit lower simply due to numbers of NQ's..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 43 minutes ago, ionel said: Ask Bob, Ban &/or Jimmy. dont forget @jajensen09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunDevil Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Hillbilly Jim said: I will start. I think Ohio St. will finish higher than this ranking and Arizona St. will finish a bit lower simply due to numbers of NQ's..... ASU probably qualifies more wrestlers for ncaa this year than last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularStalling Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 3 hours ago, SunDevil said: ASU probably qualifies more wrestlers for ncaa this year than last. I think it’s flying under the radar just how much the 3 point takedown is going to benefit ASU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 8 hours ago, ionel said: Ask Bob, Ban &/or Jimmy. By the way, friends, Ionel has me on "ignore," and, like NHS, holds such a strong obsession with me that he still invokes me all day, every day. But, I digress... ...No one wise takes a bet with me because of the one thing that my Dad taught me: never make a bet that you won't win. In other words, Bob fell for my sucker bet, changed the conditions of the bet, we both didn't agree to these final conditions, and for almost twenty years has cried that he won, culminating in the assemblage of a kangaroo court to harbor sympathy for his lost cause. Nice summary for those who still haven't voted (and even those that did). So, no, unless you want to part with some cash, DON'T ask me. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Iowa will definitely finish higher than 8th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Unfortunately I agree with Jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 15 hours ago, Hillbilly Jim said: Time for NCAA Wrestling. Who do you think is underrated on the list and why? I got some bets to make... Tournament Rankings RANK SCHOOL CONFERENCE POINTS NCAA FINISH 1 Penn State Big Ten 141.5 1 2(T) Missouri Big 12 65 5 2(T) Virginia Tech ACC 65 9 4 Cornell EIWA 62.5 3 5 Nebraska Big Ten 57.5 8 6 Michigan Big Ten 55.5 6 7 Arizona State Pac-12 54 7 8 Iowa Big Ten 48 2 9 NC State ACC 46 10 10 Oklahoma State Big 12 43 18(T) 11 Iowa State Big 12 38.5 11 12 Ohio State Big Ten 33 4 13 Rutgers Big Ten 26 34 14(T) Illinois Big Ten 25.5 31 14(T) Oklahoma Big 12 25.5 40 14(T) South Dakota State Big 12 25.5 14 17 Northern Iowa Big 12 25 16(T) 18(T) Northern Colorado Big 12 23.5 23 18(T) Wisconsin Big Ten 23.5 16(T) 20 Oregon State Pac-12 23 29 21 North Carolina ACC 22.5 12 22 Minnesota Big Ten 21.5 15 23 Purdue Big Ten 20 20(T) 24 Air Force Big 12 18 18(T) 25 Lock Haven MAC 17 30 26 Penn EIWA 16.5 32 27 Pittsburgh ACC 13 22 28 Indiana Big Ten 11 38 29 Lehigh EIWA 10 20(T) 30 Maryland Big Ten 9.5 36 Where are you seeing these markets? There are a few I would be interested in betting. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted September 21, 2023 Author Share Posted September 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Where are you seeing these markets? There are a few I would be interested in betting. Not public.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Ban Basketball said: By the way, friends, Ionel has me on "ignore," and, like NHS, holds such a strong obsession with me that he still invokes me all day, every day. But, I digress... ...No one wise takes a bet with me because of the one thing that my Dad taught me: never make a bet that you won't win. In other words, Bob fell for my sucker bet, changed the conditions of the bet, we both didn't agree to these final conditions, and for almost twenty years has cried that he won, culminating in the assemblage of a kangaroo court to harbor sympathy for his lost cause. Nice summary for those who still haven't voted (and even those that did). So, no, unless you want to part with some cash, DON'T ask me. There's an entirely different thread on this very topic. I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hillbilly Jim said: Not public.  So you come here looking for free help with betting markets, but will not say where they are? Sure I will help. But you will have to decide if you should bet based on what I tell you....or the opposite of what I tell you. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted September 21, 2023 Author Share Posted September 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: So you come here looking for free help with betting markets, but will not say where they are? Sure I will help. But you will have to decide if you should bet based on what I tell you....or the opposite of what I tell you. Relax man--I never said anything about "betting markets"...those are your words. I just meant amongst friends dude...like your Mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm Up Champ Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) I'd bet on Oregon State to finish higher than 20th, where you have them slotted. Legitimate AA threats for the Beavs.    125: Kaylor  165: Olguin  174: Wittlake  184: Munoz  285: McDermott 3 of these guys have already AA'ed in their careers. As a Beav homer I would add more of the OSU lineup to this list. However, I think it would be hard for anyone to argue that the 5 I mentioned above aren't legit threats to be on the podium. Edited September 21, 2023 by Warm Up Champ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted September 21, 2023 Author Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Warm Up Champ said: I'd bet on Oregon State to finish higher than 20th, where you have them slotted. Legitimate AA threats for the Beavs.    125: Kaylor  165: Olguin  174: Wittlake  184: Munoz  285: McDermott 3 of these guys have already AA'ed in their careers. As a Beav homer I would add more of the lineup to this list. However, I think it would be hard for anyone to argue that the 5 I mentioned above aren't legit threats to be on the podium. Good call--these are intermat's rankings from before Wittlake's transfer though. Not sure if they will be updated by when the season starts..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warm Up Champ said: I'd bet on Oregon State to finish higher than 20th, where you have them slotted. Legitimate AA threats for the Beavs.    125: Kaylor  165: Olguin  174: Wittlake  184: Munoz  285: McDermott 3 of these guys have already AA'ed in their careers. As a Beav homer I would add more of the lineup to this list. However, I think it would be hard for anyone to argue that the 5 I mentioned above aren't legit threats to be on the podium. McDermott is not an AA threat in my estimation. He has never beaten anyone that has sniffed the podium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm Up Champ Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Just now, Gus said: McDermott is not an AA threat in my estimation. He has never beaten anyone that has sniffed the podium. You just ruined my day! Beavs vs. the world! I have faith in Pendleton and company. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warm Up Champ said: You just ruined my day! Beavs vs. the world! I have faith in Pendleton and company. On the flip side Cleveland Belton has shown that he has the ability to beat AA level wrestlers such as Parker Fillius (7th) and Malyke Hines (R12). If he can get more consistent he could make the jump to an AA threat. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, Hillbilly Jim said: Relax man--I never said anything about "betting markets"...those are your words. I just meant amongst friends dude...like your Mom. go f yourself 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorenomore Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Best bet I'd make is Ohio State. That is a really low point total and I think 133 and 141 for Ohio State are going to go very deep at nationals. That leaves 8 other weight classes to contribute points. By my estimates, Ohio State will place 3 - 6 this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, scorenomore said: Best bet I'd make is Ohio State. That is a really low point total and I think 133 and 141 for Ohio State are going to go very deep at nationals. That leaves 8 other weight classes to contribute points. By my estimates, Ohio State will place 3 - 6 this year. That's what I like to hear!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, scorenomore said: Best bet I'd make is Ohio State. That is a really low point total and I think 133 and 141 for Ohio State are going to go very deep at nationals. That leaves 8 other weight classes to contribute points. By my estimates, Ohio State will place 3 - 6 this year. Imagine Sasso back in the lineup. It would take a miracle at this point, I just hope he gets healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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