Gus Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lleynor said: Did Snyder blow his knee out? Did Snyder wrestle a part time schedule to still do Freestyle events? Everything Iowa did to/for Lee was only about what they can get from him. Wrestling without ACLs? Come on... I suppose that Lee had no part in the decision as he is a robot. I also suppose that it has nothing to do with him being injury prone from a young age and that it has to be Iowa that destroyed his body and not anything genetic.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lleynor Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Gus said: I suppose that Lee had no part in the decision as he is a robot. I also suppose that it has nothing to do with him being injury prone from a young age and that it has to be Iowa that destroyed his body and not anything genetic.. Of course he had a say-so! And the coaches had the ability to override him, and say "get healthy." And they did not. Was that 11-year drought, that forced the 2021 run, really worth it for him? I'm sure it was for the Brands'. But, eventually, it will not be for Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 30 minutes ago, Lleynor said: Of course he had a say-so! And the coaches had the ability to override him, and say "get healthy." And they did not. Was that 11-year drought, that forced the 2021 run, really worth it for him? I'm sure it was for the Brands'. But, eventually, it will not be for Lee. Did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Did they? Guy has his own tinfoil hat to wear. Let him. It helps him sleep. Edited September 20, 2023 by nhs67 2 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lleynor Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Did they? My God, I hope you're kidding. The Authority lies with the HC at any program, of any sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Lleynor said: My God, I hope you're kidding. The Authority lies with the HC at any program, of any sport. Don't be dense. There are far more office politics to deal with than simply "Narp. You dun getta wrastle cuz we sed seaux." 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Takuto_Otoguro said: This guy wrestled U17 worlds and got silver at 58kg all the way back in 2016. Is he the only noteable wrestler ever to try and wrestle on the senior level at a weight lower than they did at the U17 age group? 19 hours ago, nhs67 said: Gross. Zane Richards 2023 57kg 2023 Senior Worlds 2011 58kg cadet worlds 2012 132 lb junior Fargo 2nd (lost two periods to zero to fellow 2023 world team member Zain Retherford 1-1, 1-1) Edited September 20, 2023 by bnwtwg 2 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 4 hours ago, nhs67 said: Don't be dense. There are far more office politics to deal with than simply "Narp. You dun getta wrastle cuz we sed seaux." Except in this case the argument is they could have not allowed him to wrestle. Which is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 If Fix is at the same weight as Vito, Brooks and Starocci are higher confidence for me in my opinion, and yes I know Vito majored Fix last year. I think Vito wrestles 133 but doesn’t get too big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Or maybe Vito redshirts this year but finishes up his undergrad then does grad school at Binghamton so he can still train at Spartan? I know he says he doesn’t want to stay in school but I assume he’s more referring to undergrad Mostly joking, I know this isn’t going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, 1032004 said: If Fix is at the same weight as Vito, Brooks and Starocci are higher confidence for me in my opinion, and yes I know Vito majored Fix last year. I think Vito wrestles 133 but doesn’t get too big Starocci would be my pick for highest level of confidence based on his dominance and the field of competition. Brooks will be a big favorite as well but there are some hammers at 197 to deal with in Sloan, Hidlay, Elam.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyhoyle Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Lleynor said: Of course he had a say-so! And the coaches had the ability to override him, and say "get healthy." And they did not. Was that 11-year drought, that forced the 2021 run, really worth it for him? I'm sure it was for the Brands'. But, eventually, it will not be for Lee. You'll never convince Iowa fans that the way the program managed his injuries was wrong. They got what they wanted out of him, so as far as they are concerned, it was a success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted September 24, 2023 Author Share Posted September 24, 2023 Any insiders from the Big Red know what the Vito plan is for next year? Even if NCAA allows an Olympic year, does Cornell's own rules allow him to defer a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Elevator said: Any insiders from the Big Red know what the Vito plan is for next year? Even if NCAA allows an Olympic year, does Cornell's own rules allow him to defer a year? Since he's taking an ORS that means he won't be taking classes so that doesn't usually count against the Ivy clock. It's 8 semesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Did his ORS from the cancelled season/posponed Olympics year get nullified because of the Covid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3 for LU Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 I'll be like Switzerland... and remain neutral here. D3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, gimpeltf said: Since he's taking an ORS that means he won't be taking classes so that doesn't usually count against the Ivy clock. It's 8 semesters. You say that as if it is a done deal. He's still on the roster, which he would not be were he taking an ORS (and therefore not enrolled at Cornell). You know something that we don't? I *think* the Ivy League rule was "four seasons in five years," which was changed to "four in six" for the COVID-cancelled year. An ORS this year would be his sixth year, and I don't think he'd be allowed back for a "four in seven" even if he hadn't graduated by then. My guess is that he wrestles for Cornell this year; if he doesn't, he would have to wrestle somewhere else. Maybe he does graduate work at Lehigh? (edit) Here's a bit from Harvard's web site: Quote 5-year eligibility clock – Student-athletes are permitted 5 years to complete 4 seasons of competition. The 5 year eligibility clock begins when a student-athlete first begins initial full-time enrollment. Your 5-year eligibility clock cannot be "paused" for any reason. There are specific circumstances that allow student-athletes to extend their 5-year clock to a 6th year. In order to extend the 5-year clock an NCAA waiver (or Ivy League for non-NCAA sports) must be filed. Student-athletes that were on a spring sport roster in spring 2020, a fall sport roster in fall 2020, and a winter sport roster in fall 2020 have all been granted an automatic 6th year on their clock. Edited September 24, 2023 by BigRedFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 I should have said If he's taking an ORS. Calm done! Sheesh! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, gimpeltf said: I should have said If he's taking an ORS. Calm done! Sheesh! Glad I had a defibrillator at hand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 47 minutes ago, BigRedFan said: You say that as if it is a done deal. He's still on the roster, which he would not be were he taking an ORS (and therefore not enrolled at Cornell). You know something that we don't? I *think* the Ivy League rule was "four seasons in five years," which was changed to "four in six" for the COVID-cancelled year. An ORS this year would be his sixth year, and I don't think he'd be allowed back for a "four in seven" even if he hadn't graduated by then. My guess is that he wrestles for Cornell this year; if he doesn't, he would have to wrestle somewhere else. Maybe he does graduate work at Lehigh? (edit) Here's a bit from Harvard's web site: I thought the ORS “stopped the clock.” But yeah, I doubt Vito takes one this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Just now, 1032004 said: I thought the ORS “stopped the clock.” But yeah, I doubt Vito takes one this season. According to the Ivy League, an ORS is just a year not enrolled in school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3 for LU Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, BigRedFan said: Glad I had a defibrillator at hand. D3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Has Vito not said multiple times that he wasn't taking an Oly-shirt? Why don't we believe the words out of his mouth? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: Has Vito not said multiple times that he wasn't taking an Oly-shirt? Why don't we believe the words out of his mouth? I believe he meant it, and will prob not take one. But man, look at that Oly team qualification schedule for anyone wrestling NCAAs, especially with the Pan Am qualifier at 57 Kg! Edited September 25, 2023 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 On 9/24/2023 at 4:45 PM, BigRedFan said: According to the Ivy League, an ORS is just a year not enrolled in school. I could’ve sworn there was someone that took an ORS in 2020 but was still enrolled. Maybe it wasn’t in the Ivy League though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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