Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Ya'll are talking about a time when USAW actually prioritized and pushed Greco at the youth level. The day USAW decided to put an eternal push and priority into folkstyle was the day Greco in the US started to die. I believe this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Pat Smith is out. Sad to see, as he's fun to watch. Hafizov still with a chance at repechage, but his opponent will have to beat last year's World Champion. Joe Rau still in with a very good repechage chance. On another note, some folks think that Tazhudinov's two wins over Snyderlaev were the best matches of the tournament; others go with Musukaev's gas tank performances or Giant Stevan Micic's improbable run, but the match of the World Championships is still going on: Jason Bryant's voice versus the Iranian crowd noise. So far, Bryant has held his own, but the Iranians have upped their game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Pat Smith is out. Sad to see, as he's fun to watch. Hafizov still with a chance at repechage, but his opponent will have to beat last year's World Champion. Joe Rau still in with a very good repechage chance. On another note, some folks think that Tazhudinov's two wins over Snyderlaev were the best matches of the tournament; others go with Musukaev's gas tank performances or Giant Stevan Micic's improbable run, but the match of the World Championships is still going on: Jason Bryant's voice versus the Iranian crowd noise. So far, Bryant has held his own, but the Iranians have upped their game. The Moldovans have been bringing the heat on the noise … 3 Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3 for LU Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jason Bryant said: The Moldovans have been bringing the heat on the noise … D3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jason Bryant said: The Moldovans have been bringing the heat on the noise … I noticed that as well. The Iranians get special mention for starting up while their wrestlers are on deck. Then, they just whip themselves more and more like a horse in the home stretch. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim L Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Spladle08 said: There's a variety of factors connected to our decline but at the core is the fact that we don't prioritize greco from an early age. While the popularity of Folkstyle hinders freestyle development. It obliterates Greco. Not the athletes. Simply the development. Much smaller countries continue to produce much better results. Cheers Geco was not prioritized from early age for the Greco guys that won the team title in 2007. There seemed to be about a decade where the Greco had multiple medal winners almost every year. IIRC about what we got from our FS team back then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jim L said: Geco was not prioritized from early age for the Greco guys that won the team title in 2007. There seemed to be about a decade where the Greco had multiple medal winners almost every year. IIRC about what we got from our FS team back then. We've only had multiple Greco medal winners in the same year at the Worlds seven times. 1979 (3) 1985 1991 1995 2001 (3) 2006 (3) 2007 (3) 1 Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jason Bryant said: We've only had multiple Greco medal winners in the same year at the Worlds seven times. 1979 (3) 1985 1991 1995 2001 (3) 2006 (3) 2007 (3) How about Olympics? 84, 96, 2000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: How about Olympics? 84, 96, 2000? 1984 (4) - Los Angeles 1988 (1) 1992 (2) 1996 (3) - Atlanta 2000 (3) 2004 (1) 2008 (1) 2012 (0) 2016 (0) 2021 (0) Two of the three best performances were on American soil, with one of them devoid of the Eastern Bloc. 2 Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 In 1985, 15 countries won at least one medal at the Freestyle/Greco World Championships in Kolbotn, Norway. In 2005, there were 27 countries winning at least one medal. Now, that includes women's wrestling (which didn't have a championship back in 1985), but the only winners in the women's competition that didn't have a winner in the men's Free or Greco were France, Norway and, surprisingly, Japan and China. There were 81 countries that participated in 2005. In 2018, the number of countries participating went up to 88. Japan and China won medals in Greco last year, and I even saw Japanese and Indian wrestlers winning matches this year in the 72 and 77 weight classes, which make them the fattest people from their respective countries. I think it might be that the US hasn't gotten worse, but that the world has gotten better (and there's more of them). Just ask the Soviet Union! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 early/mid 90s were a good run then multi medalists '91, '92, '95, '96. Individually, Dennis Hall medaled 3 straight I think bronze '94, gold '95, silver '96. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 IRAN FREESTYLE & GRECO (w/no Women's team) 1985 - 1 Medalist 1986 - 0 1987 - 0 1989 - 3 Medalists 1990 - 3 Medalists 1991 - 3 Medalists ... 1998 - 6 Medalists ... 2015 - 7 Medalists ... 2021 - 7 Medalists (just in Freestyle!) I haven't looked at the numbers for India, but they seem to be improving at an incredible clip. Same with San Marino and Bahrain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 5 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said: Ya'll are talking about a time when USAW actually prioritized and pushed Greco at the youth level. The day USAW decided to put an eternal push and priority into folkstyle was the day Greco in the US started to die. Approximately which day was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 43 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: Approximately which day was that? It was a Tuesday, a rotten stinch filled the air. Dark clouds rolled in like a group of hells angels, pissed off. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 41 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: It was a Tuesday, a rotten stinch filled the air. Dark clouds rolled in like a group of hells angels, pissed off. Was it a Fat Tuesday? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 11:27 AM, CA_Wrestler said: Otoguro update from hours earlier, couldn't post.... I remember him getting off the mat earlier this year in the Japanese trials slowly, looked like his leg. Same injury happened again in the match he got pinned yesterday. He said that he was going to have to forfeit because he couldn't stand. That's when he didn't know they called a touch fall. According to UWW "65kg champion Takuto OTOGURO (JPN) also pulled out due to a foot injury he has been carrying for one year." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA_Wrestler Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, fishbane said: According to UWW "65kg champion Takuto OTOGURO (JPN) also pulled out due to a foot injury he has been carrying for one year." Yeah, he's been injured for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Plasmodium said: Was it a Fat Tuesday? It was a liquid Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I Iove that this thread is now at 95 pages. 3 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I Iove that this thread is now at 95 pages. Could this be the first 100 of the new forum? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildTurk Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I need some education.. Do Iranian women wrestle now? Only if they wear a hijab? How does that work in 2023 Iran? Thanks ahead of time for the info.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Kayyalp goes down. One of the bigger upsets of this tournament. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 hours ago, WildTurk said: I need some education.. Do Iranian women wrestle now? Only if they wear a hijab? How does that work in 2023 Iran? Thanks ahead of time for the info.. I believe it's been a few years... Last time they wrestled they were covered. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 7 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said: It was a liquid Tuesday Fatty Tuesday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Dang. Joe Rau did a great job early in the first period to put Ojog of Romania down. He went with a gut, and it looked very, very close to scoring. It wasn't, so he moved on to a grounded head-pinch, got over-extended and the Romanian pinned him. I hope the Raustler continues into the Olympic season. He's fun to watch and always looking to pin. Zac Braunagel up in two on Mat B versus Turkmenistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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