Spladle08 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Takuto_Otoguro said: There is a tiny handful of guys who can beat this Musukaev that has shown up in Belgrade. He won the gold in the semi final. Yes I am setting my self up to get dunked on but I believe it and see no way he loses to seabass And yes, this version of wrestling from him, is insanely difficult to beat. That thought alone, implies that there is another "Normal" version of him. don't act like you'd be surprised if that version showed up in the finals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takuto_Otoguro Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Spladle08 said: Seabass aint great. and Mus just beat 3 amazing wrestlers to make the finals but.... In what world has Mus been reliable . lol Everyone is shocked obviously. Seabass simply outpacing him, is realistic man. I wouldn't bet on it, but if its down to the final 10 seconds, I won't be surprised By his standards his motor has looked good today despite wrestling gold medal calibre guys back to back to back. Hard to believe he can't do 6 more minutes with a worse guy than all of those after a whole day rest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 What's cool about Taz is that he's only 20 and still went right after Snyder and Sadulaev. Meanwhile in the US it's normal for guys to be 24 and focusing on NCAA titles. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Borat for Kazakhstan? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublehalf Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, peanut said: What's cool about Taz is that he's only 20 and still went right after Snyder and Sadulaev. Meanwhile in the US it's normal for guys to be 24 and focusing on NCAA titles. Sad. Well if you take into consideration an initial redshirt year... 4 standard years of eligibility, throw in an Olympic redshirt (or two), a possible medical redshirt, not including a free eligibility year... you could potentially wrestle on the same team in college as your future son... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, peanut said: What's cool about Taz is that he's only 20 and still went right after Snyder and Sadulaev. Meanwhile in the US it's normal for guys to be 24 and focusing on NCAA titles. Sad. Why is that sad? Look at the crowd here vs NCAA's. When you hear these great freestyle wrestlers talk about their international career they say their is no tournament on the planet like the NCAA's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gus said: Why is that sad? Look at the crowd here vs NCAA's. When you hear these great freestyle wrestlers talk about their international career they say their is no tournament on the planet like the NCAA's. I do not think that is a fair comparison. It took me many hours, two flights and thousands of dollars to get here. I have often just driven to the NCAAs. Worlds and Olympics will always have lesser crowds due sheerly to logistics. But I suspect David Taylor's Olympic gold means more to him than his two NCAA titles. 3 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublehalf Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: But I suspect David Taylor's Olympic gold means more to him than his two NCAA titles. Is this the queue for someone to start the thread - "David Taylor the best 2 time NCAA champ ever?" Edited September 18, 2023 by Doublehalf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, Doublehalf said: Is this the queue for someone to start the thread - "David Taylor the best 2 time NCAA champ ever?" To me him losing to Dake negates that. Dake is also a two timer. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I like Georgia's coach. Always in it. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I do not think that is a fair comparison. It took me many hours, two flights and thousands of dollars to get here. I have often just driven to the NCAAs. Worlds and Olympics will always have lesser crowds due sheerly to logistics. But I suspect David Taylor's Olympic gold means more to him than his two NCAA titles. We have the US Open stateside where fans have the ability to attend it and attendance is way less than NCAA's. The NCAA's is the highest level for folkstyle wrestling and probably the biggest tournament (attendance wise) any of these guys will ever compete in. I understand that world and olympic titles are the pinnacle of the sport. I also think that winning NCAA titles are a stepping stone and a dream for most of these USA competitors. I don't see how winning NCAA titles in college is a "shame" because they are not focused solely on their freestyle career at that point. What I am getting at is there is room for both NCAA and international success. Our guys have and are proving that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Doublehalf said: Is this the queue for someone to start the thread - "David Taylor the best 2 time NCAA champ ever?" He probably is. Also the best current wrestler except for those that wish to vault the 20 year old over top to #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spladle08 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 He probably is. Also the best current wrestler except for those that wish to vault the 20 year old over top to #1. I thought John Smith was a 2x NCAA champ . Don't discount the old man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 So this Georgian who is wrestling for Bronze right now? We have what... 4 Americans who have beaten him in the last year? 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecojones Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Are they doing non olympic weights first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Oh this is a tough one. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, Grecojones said: Are they doing non olympic weights first? Yes. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spladle08 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 So this Georgian who is wrestling for Bronze right now? We have what... 4 Americans who have beaten him in the last year?The backside of the upper-weights can get a little thin. (97kg this year excluded) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Wow. Turkey with some large balls there. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spladle08 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just watched the Eric O and Weebs clip. Ever since his little needless tantrum about the Russian entrants, he just bothers me. Replace him with David Letterman or somebody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecojones Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Grecojones said: Super low probability i would think. @treep2000 I stand corrected and appologize, sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spladle08 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Zahid . Could've should've would've been the champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Quick work for Zahid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Spladle08 said: Zahid . Could've should've would've been the champ Although irrelevant, Brooks would have done well at 92 kg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 47 minutes ago, peanut said: What's cool about Taz is that he's only 20 and still went right after Snyder and Sadulaev. Meanwhile in the US it's normal for guys to be 24 and focusing on NCAA titles. Sad. 25 even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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