Jimmy Cinnabon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 According to this: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/trouble-in-paradise.425634/ Maybe he wants to step out of his brother's shadow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Sheesh Jimmy do you get an alert for every post at HR? That post was made 3 minutes before you posted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 yes. i talked about it (briefly) on the show i just posted. subscribe or you're banned for life. https://rokfin.com/post/148286/TFW-91223-Ayres--JR-Big-Board-Breakdown 2 2 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 Honestly, it is pretty crazy that Terry Brands, with all of his personal and coaching accolades, can't get a HC job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Honestly, it is pretty crazy that Terry Brands, with all of his personal and coaching accolades, can't get a HC job. That is a stupid statement. Even for you. 2 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemonster Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Definitely interesting news, didn't realize Terry was searching for HC jobs as well. Thanks for sharing Jimmy. actually bringing some convo to the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, pokemonster said: Definitely interesting news, didn't realize Terry was searching for HC jobs as well. Thanks for sharing Jimmy. actually bringing some convo to the board. Interesting. His son may be done. Maybe just throwing his hat into the ring and testing the waters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Very interesting. Not sure what to make it of it. Hasn't Terry gone on record saying he doesn't like all the ancillary responsibilities that come with a head coaching position? Maybe this is a way for him to haggle for a higher salary with Iowa? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat_charlie Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 This actually does surprise me, but the point about Nelson graduating makes sense. I don't see any major program giving him a shot. I think I'm stating the obvious here in saying this--he's a strong individual coach, but he's lacking in some key areas that are required for long-term success as the head of a program. In order for him to be successful as a head coach, I think he'd need to rely heavily on an associate head coach that can fill those gaps, and I'm not sure who that guy is. I could see him going to a smaller program and having some success, at least on an individual basis with a handful of guys. I just don't see him signing up for a pay cut, which is what that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie said: This actually does surprise me, but the point about Nelson graduating makes sense. I don't see any major program giving him a shot. I think I'm stating the obvious here in saying this--he's a strong individual coach, but he's lacking in some key areas that are required for long-term success as the head of a program. In order for him to be successful as a head coach, I think he'd need to rely heavily on an associate head coach that can fill those gaps, and I'm not sure who that guy is. I could see him going to a smaller program and having some success, at least on an individual basis with a handful of guys. I just don't see him signing up for a pay cut, which is what that would be. May I suggest this young man for Terry's associate head coach? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat_charlie Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: May I suggest this young man for Terry's associate head coach? Too injury prone. The best ability is availability, and you usually want your coaches to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, steamboat_charlie said: Too injury prone. The best ability is availability, and you usually want your coaches to show up. He's downstairs drilling right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: May I suggest this young man for Terry's associate head coach? Phuk me, Cinny. I actually love this. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Also - Go poach Metcalf. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of the Quakers Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I hope Terry applies for the Princeton job. Ivy League could use someone of his intensity. 1 1 Dan McDonald, Penn '93 danmc167@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDole Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Voice of the Quakers said: I hope Terry applies for the Princeton job. Ivy League could use someone of his intensity. Dubuque just sits in the corner and reads the newspaper during most matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, steamboat_charlie said: This actually does surprise me, but the point about Nelson graduating makes sense. I don't see any major program giving him a shot. I think I'm stating the obvious here in saying this--he's a strong individual coach, but he's lacking in some key areas that are required for long-term success as the head of a program. In order for him to be successful as a head coach, I think he'd need to rely heavily on an associate head coach that can fill those gaps, and I'm not sure who that guy is. I could see him going to a smaller program and having some success, at least on an individual basis with a handful of guys. I just don't see him signing up for a pay cut, which is what that would be. If he is actually applying for jobs Terry Brands will be at or near the top of the list for any school that has an open position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbone Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 The interesting thing with regard to Spencer is (I believe) he signed with HWC through 2028. If Terry leaves I doubt his contract with HWC would allow him to leave. I am sure they would work something out (if Spencer even would want out) but Terry leaving could have a greater impact on the HWC than the Hawkeyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Voice of the Quakers said: I hope Terry applies for the Princeton job. Ivy League could use someone of his intensity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorvarsity Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Super interesting. Gotta give the job to Koll, though. A proven guy. What he did at Cornell was amazing. Does anyone know who else applied/interviewed? Where else would Terry Brands apply to coach at? Is he gonna throw his hat in the ring for the next Big 10 head coach opening? He was def not on my radar for potential head coach jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat_charlie Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 59 minutes ago, Gus said: If he is actually applying for jobs Terry Brands will be at or near the top of the list for any school that has an open position. Any school? I don't think so. He wasn't at the top of UNC's list, nor Stanford's, nor will he be for Princeton. Are we going to pretend he isn't who he is? He's an attack dog. He's notoriously hot tempered. He's confrontational with officials, fans, and opposing wrestlers. He hasn't been a head coach in 20 years. The last time he was, he bailed after 3 seasons. Some of his conduct you'd be surprised to see from a young coach in their 20's, let alone a guy in his mid 50's. Are you imagining he's interviewing well--or do you think some AD's might be put off by the thousand yard stare? I don't dislike the guy or anything. He's entertaining as hell as a spectator. He's just not head coach material. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie said: Any school? I don't think so. He wasn't at the top of UNC's list, nor Stanford's, nor will he be for Princeton. Are we going to pretend he isn't who he is? He's an attack dog. He's notoriously hot tempered. He's confrontational with officials, fans, and opposing wrestlers. He hasn't been a head coach in 20 years. The last time he was, he bailed after 3 seasons. Some of his conduct you'd be surprised to see from a young coach in their 20's, let alone a guy in his mid 50's. Are you imagining he's interviewing well--or do you think some AD's might be put off by the thousand yard stare? I don't dislike the guy or anything. He's entertaining as hell as a spectator. He's just not head coach material. Also there's a similar reason why Mike Stoops is no longer a head coach and why his brother kept him in the box not down on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, ionel said: Also there's a similar reason why Mike Stoops is no longer a head coach and why his brother kept him in the box not down on the field. It's also because he sucked as a coach at UofEh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said: It's also because he sucked as a coach at UofEh. That certainly didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie said: Any school? I don't think so. He wasn't at the top of UNC's list, nor Stanford's, nor will he be for Princeton. Are we going to pretend he isn't who he is? He's an attack dog. He's notoriously hot tempered. He's confrontational with officials, fans, and opposing wrestlers. He hasn't been a head coach in 20 years. The last time he was, he bailed after 3 seasons. Some of his conduct you'd be surprised to see from a young coach in their 20's, let alone a guy in his mid 50's. Are you imagining he's interviewing well--or do you think some AD's might be put off by the thousand yard stare? I don't dislike the guy or anything. He's entertaining as hell as a spectator. He's just not head coach material. I'm an Iowa hater but don't you think it's a little unfair to assume Terry hasn't matured or evolved as a coach in the last 20 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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