jross Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 Google is programming what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, jross said: Google is programming what you think. Or maybe, just maybe, it's showing you what everyone else typed in before you started your query. Take the tinfoil off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Arizona certified its results today, which means: - Katie Hobbs is the Governor - Mark Kelly is still the Senator - Adrian Fontes is Secretary of State And Kari Lake is still a loser. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerniePragle Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 55 minutes ago, jross said: The Wall Street Journal studied auto-complete features for Google, Duck Duck Go, and Bing in 2019. It was interesting. [https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-google-interferes-with-its-search-algorithms-and-changes-your-results-11573823753] Now Google refrains from showing auto-complete. Duck Duck Go, Bing and several others I tried are now scrubbed and consistent. Donald Trump is... None of those choices would have been on my list. I think the "writer" is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 What a hysterical drama queen. https://deadstate.org/elon-musk-the-risk-of-me-literally-being-assassinated-is-quite-significant/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 21 minutes ago, BerniePragle said: Donald Trump is... None of those choices would have been on my list. I think the "writer" is laughable. The writer may be laughable. For clarity, none of those auto-suggestions were on the writer's list either in 2019. He typed "Donald Trump is," and the browser auto-suggested completions. When I tried the same test in 2021, I found that google no longer reveals auto-suggestions for 'Donald Trump is', and the other browsers provided 'pleasant' scrubbed suggestions. You can try other combinations and find significant differences in auto-search suggestions and search results today. 29 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said: Or maybe, just maybe, it's showing you what everyone else typed in before you started your query. Take the tinfoil off. If it is showing what everybody typed in before, then you might acknowledge that across three engines in 2019 for "Joe Biden is," you see one positive as 'going to cure cancer.' The negative results are toast, too old to run, done, creepy, idiot, joke. Most of Trump's are negative too with the moron, idiot, joke plus some creativity with fat, antichrist, and illuminati confirmed. Unlike Biden, Trump's results had positives like my president and awesome. 'Going to win' could be a question or a statement, so that context of positive/negative is unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Occam's Razor says that the words you're seeing in the autocomplete are the most common words typed by other users. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you're going to make the claim that Google is malignantly skewing the results of autocomplete, then you should bring some actual evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 Bing has an alternative search suggestion from google that you can see right now. It's the word that the left used to describe Musk before he expressed his desire to vote republican for the first time in his life, buying Twitter and exposing government coordination from the Trump and (primarily) Biden campaigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Did you get into your kid's weed stash tonight? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said: Occam's Razor says that the words you're seeing in the autocomplete are the most common words typed by other users. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you're going to make the claim that Google is malignantly skewing the results of autocomplete, then you should bring some actual evidence. What were your thoughts on what that Democrat has already provided evidence for? https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Epstein Testimony.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said: Did you get into your kid's weed stash tonight? You'd think so given I own and have lost a bunch of money on weed stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, jross said: What were your thoughts on what that Democrat has already provided evidence for? https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Epstein Testimony.pdf Search for autocomplete in the pdf and tell me how germane that doc is for this conversation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, jross said: You'd think so given I own and have lost a bunch of money on weed stock. I didn't know you could buy weed stock. I do have an old college friend who owns a pot farm for commercial use in Maine though, so I should have guessed. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BerniePragle Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, jross said: The writer may be laughable. For clarity, none of those auto-suggestions were on the writer's list either in 2019. He typed "Donald Trump is," and the browser auto-suggested completions. When I tried the same test in 2021, I found that google no longer reveals auto-suggestions for 'Donald Trump is', and the other browsers provided 'pleasant' scrubbed suggestions. You can try other combinations and find significant differences in auto-search suggestions and search results today. If it is showing what everybody typed in before, then you might acknowledge that across three engines in 2019 for "Joe Biden is," you see one positive as 'going to cure cancer.' The negative results are toast, too old to run, done, creepy, idiot, joke. Most of Trump's are negative too with the moron, idiot, joke plus some creativity with fat, antichrist, and illuminati confirmed. Unlike Biden, Trump's results had positives like my president and awesome. 'Going to win' could be a question or a statement, so that context of positive/negative is unknown. I didn't explain well enough. I didn't mean writer as in who wrote the article. One of the suggestions was Donald Trump is... a writer. That's what I thought was laughable. I'm sure dad paid someone to write Donald's stuff from grade school to college. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, jross said: One guy's bald assertion using a weasel word. He references his own work which isn't even close to being conclusive (https://aibrt.org/downloads/EPSTEIN_MOHR_&_MARTINEZ_2018-WPA-The_Search_Suggestion_Effect-SSE-WP-17-03.pdf) This is bad science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) Harvard dude was a Hilary Clinton voter that studies behavior for a living and testified before the judiciary subcommittee. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4814284/user-clip-testimony-dr-robert-epstein Edited December 6, 2022 by jross no need to be mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Hmmm Twitter No Longer Has a Content Moderation Policy—and Appears to Be Hiding First Amendment Violations By the Trump White House While Viciously Targeting Twitter’s Progressives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 Wow. Listen to this Harvard democrat describe what occurred in 2016 and would occur in 2020. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4941947/user-clip-big-tech-staggering-amount-power-ban-speech-destroy-rivals-shape-culture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Your gish gallop is recognized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said: Hmmm Twitter No Longer Has a Content Moderation Policy—and Appears to Be Hiding First Amendment Violations By the Trump White House While Viciously Targeting Twitter’s Progressives That is unreadable. I will assume it says something is bad and go with it. Transparency is the way to trust. https://sriramk.com/transparent-content-moderation https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2022/twitter-2-0-our-continued-commitment-to-the-public-conversation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 Haha. I like 'gish gallop.' Denied facts are still facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, jross said: That is unreadable. I will assume it says something is bad and go with it. If you aren't going to actually read what someone else posts, then you have ceased to be a useful conversational partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, Mike Parrish said: If you aren't going to actually read what someone else posts, then you have ceased to be a useful conversational partner. I tried. At a glance, it says Musk is behaving similarly against the left as before against the right. The entirety of the article is one of the worst writing styles I've encountered. I'm not alone (writing style criticism). I've tried to answer your questions on even sensitive topics. Will you answer questions? Which of the 16 media storylines I shared earlier do you believe is true vs. a hoax? There is no trap; I believe they are all hoaxes that many on the left believe. I'm sure there are many hoaxes that I unknowingly believe. On behaviors... you ask Theo for evidence on media misinformation, and he provides it, and you provide no response. I actually want information and facts to expand my views. I don't want trolling and penis jokes that deflect from the harder concern :). Did you read the google censorship article the first or second time it was provided? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerniePragle Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 I take an alternate semi-head in the sand approach to trying to figure out what's going on in Washington, lower governments, and the business world. I consume very little "news" from much of anywhere. I simply watch what's going on in the world around me and ask Scott Adams' question, "Which is more likely". This is how I have come up with my view that what any of us individually believes, or how we vote, is immaterial. As long as the general public is split about 50/50 on what we've been told are "the issues", "they" can contiue to pick our bones and our childrens' bones nearly clean. It's all simply a shell game. We're the patsies, the rich, powerful guys are the winners, and our taxes and purchases are the money being put into the game. The real problem is there is almost no integrity or empathy in government or Big Business. Granted, I'm less "real time" than someone who is keeping more abreast of the goings on, but I like to think I get BSed less. I'm not reading the recipe nor watching the cook prepare the food. I'm merely eating it and know it tastes like crap. And, it's the only place to eat in town. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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