Mike Parrish Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 'Call your legislator' is vastly more useful than 'complain about things that aren't illegal'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDole Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, jross said: Monopolies often warrant regulation. Agreed. I use Twitter for news, entertainment, education, and banter because it is where the monopoly of social media discussion occurs. I do not go there for politics but politics is included in what the community discusses, and it's amplified. I want regulations because Twitter has a monopoly on anonymous social discussion, and they used their mass power of influence to discreetly influence society in an underhanded manner. This is harmful and dangerous. Had the right behaved the way the left did, I'd be just as frustrated with them. I'm frustrated because of how the left behaved, not because of their views, many of which I share. Twitter isn't a monopoly. There is competition with TikTok, Facebook, SnapChat, etc. Social Media is a plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Butthurt nerd silences critics while crying about free speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Elmo's also a lying hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Other nerds are sharing the flight tracking code. Epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I heard a take on NPR yesterday morning, and I'm wondering if it isn't right. Musk likes the limelight and self-promotion, so he has now bought Twitter to use Twitter to get people arguing and debating on Twitter about Twitter. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 hours ago, BobDole said: Twitter isn't a monopoly. There is competition with TikTok, Facebook, SnapChat, etc. Social Media is a plenty. You are probably right. Those companies see each other as competitors for advertisement dollars, and they steal features. Generally speaking, Twitter is unique because anyone can freely (& anonymous) discuss with or follow 300M global users without permission. That is not Facebook. It's not silly videos like TikTok and disappearing chats/images/vids like Snapchat. When I was trying alternatives... I explored Counter Social, Gab, and Truth Social. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Where is the ad revenue in that? I'm sure there is some self serving uses for him but is it just possible that it will open up the site to more speech? We used to say something to the effect that I may not like what you say, but I will fight to keep your right to say it. Something like that. Is that what we see today? I don't think so. Twitter is a private company. They can regulate speech if they want like people have said here. But they also want to say they are a free marketplace of ideas which is protected by federal law. When they are no longer a free marketplace of ideas, that protection should likewise go away. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) Only gubment can abridge your free speech with subsequent repercussions. Edited December 14, 2022 by Ban Basketball Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 A space that says it is the market place of ideas (free speech) and runs it like that has full protection of US law against lawsuits. When they start moderating content, that's when the US law no longer applies, Section 230 that is. Essentially you are correct. But if you believed Twitter and were erased because your content did not fit with their ideology, you would think that Twitter abridged your free speech rights. Twitter quit being a marketplace of ideas years ago. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, mspart said: A space that says it is the market place of ideas (free speech) and runs it like that has full protection of US law against lawsuits. When they start moderating content, that's when the US law no longer applies, Section 230 that is. Essentially you are correct. But if you believed Twitter and were erased because your content did not fit with their ideology, you would think that Twitter abridged your free speech rights. Twitter quit being a marketplace of ideas years ago. mspart I don't think Section 230 works the way you think it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, mspart said: But if you believed Twitter and were erased because your content did not fit with their ideology, you would think that Twitter abridged your free speech rights. As someone who's been banned from rasslin forums more than everyone on here combined, I can pretty much relate to this! Never felt my speech was abridged because of what I said before, but, yeah, my often times differing ideas led to most of them. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 https://maxburns.substack.com/p/elons-twitter-enters-the-red-zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 On 12/13/2022 at 7:24 AM, Mike Parrish said: On the COVID front https://www.commonwealthfund.org/blog/2022/two-years-covid-vaccines-prevented-millions-deaths-hospitalizations Interesting paper. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05542-y COVID gets into a lot of organs and can persist long after the symptoms of the infection subside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDole Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 4 hours ago, mspart said: A space that says it is the market place of ideas (free speech) and runs it like that has full protection of US law against lawsuits. When they start moderating content, that's when the US law no longer applies, Section 230 that is. Essentially you are correct. But if you believed Twitter and were erased because your content did not fit with their ideology, you would think that Twitter abridged your free speech rights. Twitter quit being a marketplace of ideas years ago. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 The cheese is slipping off Elmo's cracker. https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-kills-twitter-audio-feature-after-bizarre-tal-1849902405 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDole Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said: The cheese is slipping off Elmo's cracker. https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-kills-twitter-audio-feature-after-bizarre-tal-1849902405 Free speech, except if you tell people where I am at or heading. People still have no clue what free speech is, our educational system has failed some of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, BobDole said: Free speech, except if you tell people where I am at or heading. People still have no clue what free speech is, our educational system has failed some of us. Or happen to be a journalist who is critical of Elmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerniePragle Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, BobDole said: Free speech, except if you tell people where I am at or heading. People still have no clue what free speech is, our educational system has failed some of us. This is the guy you want to listen to if you really want to know what's going on, not a sugar coated version by those with financial incentives in your ignorance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, BerniePragle said: This is the guy you want to listen to if you really want to know what's going on, not a sugar coated version by those with financial incentives in your ignorance. I'm a Nader fan, but was troubled by the person with whom he was on the panel with, Charles Murray. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, BobDole said: Free speech, except if you tell people where I am at or heading. People still have no clue what free speech is, our educational system has failed some of us. Legislators all across the country who are prohibiting educators from discussing the "isms" and sexuality issues in classes are doing far more harm to educational free speech than anything that educators could ever dream of doing. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 He just killed Twitter Spaces, which I didn’t use as a content creator very much, but was in them a lot as a listener of live podcasts, “town hall” types of things and post-game shows. He just gave Clubhouse a new lease on life. Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 A clear eyed view https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2022/Items/Dec16-5.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mike Parrish said: A clear eyed view https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2022/Items/Dec16-5.html Mike that’s a left spin hack job of an article. Edited December 16, 2022 by jross 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, jross said: Mike that’s a left spin hack job of an article. No, you're just so far out in the weeds, it seems like that to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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