MPhillips Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/11201611-rob-koll-leaves-stanford-to-take-over-at-north-carolina 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leg rider Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 As a UNC guy this is a home run hire and i an excited to see what he can do 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Good for Koll, I guess. Pretty rough news for Stanford whose athletics is already in a tough situation, and for Tony Ramos who I wanted to see run the program. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creek chub Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Great hire for unc and the ACC. Wonder if any of his Stanford wrestlers follow him there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 So all UNC fans now have John on there Christmas card list. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I wonder what recruits will follow him, open up their recruitment, or stay. Man, they had some hammers come in and some future ones that Koll recruited. Very interesting to say the least! But congrats to Koll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Koll has a very highly touted recruiting class led for Stanford. Wonder who all jumps ship... From Flo: #12 Aden Valencia (133/141) #15 Carter Neves (285) #24 EJ Parco (149) #33 Jack Consiglio (141) #38 Cole Han-Lindemyer (184) #43 Collin Guffey (157) #46 Grigor Cholakyan (149/157) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leg rider Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, Gus said: Koll has a very highly touted recruiting class led for Stanford. Wonder who all jumps ship... From Flo: #12 Aden Valencia (133/141) #15 Carter Neves (285) #24 EJ Parco (149) #33 Jack Consiglio (141) #38 Cole Han-Lindemyer (184) #43 Collin Guffey (157) #46 Grigor Cholakyan (149/157) With my appologies to Stanford, I would love to see several of them switch directions and head to Chapel Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: Ok but ... why is there still a tree on his shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 For these student athletes at Stanford … they got into Stanford. Stay at Stanford. Pls — get the brand, get the network, make the coin. Set yourself up for a very comfortable life. Stay at Stanford. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularStalling Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Koll never wanted to be at Stanford. It was a paycheck until he found something he liked better. Hope the program/next staff can retain most of its recruits and continue regaining traction after almost being dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 24 minutes ago, RegularStalling said: Koll never wanted to be at Stanford. It was a paycheck until he found something he liked better. Hope the program/next staff can retain most of its recruits and continue regaining traction after almost being dropped. So what happened at Cornell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, 1032004 said: So what happened at Cornell? if I had to guess pissed off by the way they dealt with COVID. from what we heard, they decided to enforce contact tracing in a stricter way than other Ivys even did among students, faculty, and staff. maybe prior to that he was starting to wonder about a new challenge which would be reasonable. add to that, the fact that he must have known his reputation would help momentarily stabilize a program that had already been announced as gone. I can see how it would make some sense and all the sudden its Silicon Valley culture shock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) Seems like confluence of events. Key ally, the AD, was retiring. Had opportunity to slot Mike Grey in. Stanford opened up. Perhaps Covid annoyance to. Given confluence, good time to make a shift. Edited August 31, 2023 by Dark Energy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 23 minutes ago, flyingcement said: if I had to guess pissed off by the way they dealt with COVID. good guess 1 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularStalling Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Carter Neves already decommitted… so it begins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMardigain Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) It wasn’t that long ago Stanford was on the brink of closing the wrestling room doors for good. Koll coming in was part of ensuring the program remained relevant. Who can come in to keep that going? And could Stanford consider ending the program again if that relevancy begins to fall off with Kolls departure? I don’t recall but did they at least get some type of endowment in place during the resurgence to help with keeping it afloat long term? Edited September 1, 2023 by MadMardigain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, flyingcement said: if I had to guess pissed off by the way they dealt with COVID. from what we heard, they decided to enforce contact tracing in a stricter way than other Ivys even did among students, faculty, and staff. maybe prior to that he was starting to wonder about a new challenge which would be reasonable. add to that, the fact that he must have known his reputation would help momentarily stabilize a program that had already been announced as gone. I can see how it would make some sense and all the sudden its Silicon Valley culture shock Wasn’t Stanford crazy about Covid stuff too though? I know Griffith complained about it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitleIX is ripe for reform Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Stanford's recent NCAA champion Shane Griffith's at Michigan now, as a grad. student. https://mgoblue.com/sports/wrestling/roster/shane-griffith/24926 But what if he opted to coach in California now that there's an opening? I realize that coaching experience is good to have. OK, maybe vital to have. But who could add more instant enthusiasm to the crusade to keep the Stanford wrestling program alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgaveMaria Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Stanford will hire Mark Schultz with Rulon Gardner as his head Assistant. 1 ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goheels1812 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, RegularStalling said: Carter Neves already decommitted… so it begins UNC hasn’t had a decent heavyweight since Cory Daniel (circa 2015-2019)… Neves following Koll to UNC wouldn’t surprise me here. It’s a major roster need. Edited September 1, 2023 by goheels1812 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointTakedown Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 List of possible Stanford successor(and my reasoning): Gavin(Pitt), HC experience, Pitt is a fairly academic-heavy school. Similar recruiting pool. Princeton staff(some or all), similar recruiting pool and recent team success. Storniolo(NW), HC and recruiting experience, similar school academic profile and recruiting pool Nickerson(UNC-West), HC experience and recent success, Ivy League pedigree Derek Moore(Cal-Bap), National Champ from Cali, hard to deny he might have some heft. Matt Gentry(UofC), National Champ and Alumnus, Recently got back into coaching at U of Chicago. Didn't know the HC is named after him, that could be awkward. But Penn did it, so there is precedent. Engel(OSU-West), Associate HC, previous staff member, wasn't sullied by the mass program drop SNAFU and the dirty politics that ensued(but if I were him it'd be hard to go back, knowing how the staff was treated) Paulson(UVA) x2: Associate HC and Assistant, could make for an interesting combo in Palo Alto. Santoro(Lehigh): We saw Koll make the move, greater than 0 chance, I feel. Dillon(Lehigh): Finally gets a chance to steer the ship. Lehigh is not at the level of Stanford academics or standards, but not too too far. Team hasn't had a ton of success lately, might be a stretch. Who did I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugarles Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 oh... hey... didn't expect to run into you here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said: List of possible Stanford successor(and my reasoning): Gavin(Pitt), HC experience, Pitt is a fairly academic-heavy school. Similar recruiting pool. Princeton staff(some or all), similar recruiting pool and recent team success. Storniolo(NW), HC and recruiting experience, similar school academic profile and recruiting pool Nickerson(UNC-West), HC experience and recent success, Ivy League pedigree Derek Moore(Cal-Bap), National Champ from Cali, hard to deny he might have some heft. Matt Gentry(UofC), National Champ and Alumnus, Recently got back into coaching at U of Chicago. Didn't know the HC is named after him, that could be awkward. But Penn did it, so there is precedent. Engel(OSU-West), Associate HC, previous staff member, wasn't sullied by the mass program drop SNAFU and the dirty politics that ensued(but if I were him it'd be hard to go back, knowing how the staff was treated) Paulson(UVA) x2: Associate HC and Assistant, could make for an interesting combo in Palo Alto. Santoro(Lehigh): We saw Koll make the move, greater than 0 chance, I feel. Dillon(Lehigh): Finally gets a chance to steer the ship. Lehigh is not at the level of Stanford academics or standards, but not too too far. Team hasn't had a ton of success lately, might be a stretch. Who did I miss? Good list. Nickerson is one I hadn't thought of but kinda makes sense. Speaking of UVa, do you think Garland would consider it? Although I guess he is a UVa alum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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