Gus Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 We need to get this administration out of office as soon as possible. https://www.whitehouse.gov/covidplan/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 “The President committed that the United States would be the world’s arsenal for vaccines – “ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 This plan lays out the roadmap to help us fight COVID-19 in the future as we begin to get back to our more normal routines. Do we have to "begin" already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Old news. Looks like they put together a decent plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 3:04 AM, Gus said: We need to get this administration out of office as soon as possible. https://www.whitehouse.gov/covidplan/ Expand https://www.newsweek.com/iwillnotcomply-trends-twitter-after-joe-biden-orders-vaccine-mandate-1627723 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 7:15 AM, Offthemat said: https://www.newsweek.com/iwillnotcomply-trends-twitter-after-joe-biden-orders-vaccine-mandate-1627723 Expand Trolling 0/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 7:07 AM, Plasmodium said: Old news. Looks like they put together a decent plan. Expand Seems like we all have been doing fine without having the clot shot mandated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 7:07 AM, Plasmodium said: Old news. Looks like they put together a decent plan. Expand “Vaccinate the world” on the USA White House page sounds like some one world government type of baloney. Continue to line the pockets of big pharma by pushing the clot shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 12:01 PM, Gus said: “Vaccinate the world” on the USA White House page sounds like some one world government type of baloney. Continue to line the pockets of big pharma by pushing the clot shot. Expand Sounds like growing an economy to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 12:06 PM, Plasmodium said: Sounds like growing an economy to me. Expand Sounds like “These rich men north of Richmond, Lord knows they all just wanna have total control” to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 1:29 PM, Gus said: Sounds like “These rich men north of Richmond, Lord knows they all just wanna have total control” to me. Expand Feel the same way about cholera, tetanus and measles? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 2:24 PM, Plasmodium said: Feel the same way about cholera, tetanus and measles? Expand No...because unlike Covid, these things do have serious implications to kids. Oh, and those vaccines have been tested and tried for years and shown to be safe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Would the OP prefer more shutdowns? Not sure what's objectionable here, although I've never understood what was objectionable about trying to be pro-life and save lives. Us silly pro-lifers! Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 3:40 PM, Ban Basketball said: Would the OP prefer more shutdowns? Not sure what's objectionable here, although I've never understood what was objectionable about trying to be pro-life and save lives. Us silly pro-lifers! Expand That’s what you call living? Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 3:43 PM, Offthemat said: That’s what you call living? Ha! Expand You were able to interpret what he is say?? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 3:49 PM, Bigbrog said: You were able to interpret what he is say?? Lol Expand He’s trying to promote shutdowns as pro-life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 3:43 PM, Offthemat said: That’s what you call living? Ha! Expand Didn't affect my life. In fact, it likely made it better, as I never got ill, nor did I have family members get very ill. We call that good livin' in Ioway, my friend! Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 4:25 PM, Ban Basketball said: Didn't affect my life. In fact, it likely made it better, as I never got ill, nor did I have family members get very ill. We call that good livin' in Ioway, my friend! Expand Oh, I can believe that, my friend. I can believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 The vaccines have been proven not to prevent Covid nor the spread of covid. The best that they can say is they are like a flu shot, the symptoms shouldn't be as bad if you do get it. But we have been through this. Covid is life threatening (original covid that is) for older people with bad immune systems and those with comorbidities. It is not life threatening on the population ages 0-50. Please don't make me drag out those old statistics, we all know them. No mandates for a vaccine that may, may possibly, be effective for a few months. No mask mandates as the masks are useless against a virus so small. No lockdowns, we have seen what that has done to our children. The reaction to covid is a lot more dangerous to everyone on the whole than getting covid. Remember all the layoffs due to businesses not being critical? Remember all the forced terminations due to not getting the vaccine? In WA, we are still dealing with that issue as the Governor still will not hire those people back at the level that they were at. This has wrecked the Ferry system and that is a vivid reminder of dangerous covid policy. Also as disease mutates, it generally gets less deadly while being more prevalent. That has been the case with covid, and the less deadly variants as time went on. Also, people died of lots of things, but if they had covid, they died of covid. In the beginning, it was new and no one knew anything about it and we all panicked. Now we know and there is no need to panic. mspart 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 3:24 PM, Bigbrog said: No...because unlike Covid, these things do have serious implications to kids. Oh, and those vaccines have been tested and tried for years and shown to be safe. Expand Reduced spread of disease is vital to society and kids need to to play their role along with everyone else. If there is an outbreak of a different vaccinated disease, unvaccinated kids aren't allowed in school. COVID killed massive, massive numbers, whether people acknowledge it or not. Covid vaccine is billions in and piling up years at this point. It is proven, even if the proving grounds weren't ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 6:55 PM, Plasmodium said: Reduced spread of disease is vital to society and kids need to to play their role along with everyone else. If there is an outbreak of a different vaccinated disease, unvaccinated kids aren't allowed in school. COVID killed massive, massive numbers, whether people acknowledge it or not. Covid vaccine is billions in and piling up years at this point. It is proven, even if the proving grounds weren't ideal. Expand Yeah, proven that it is not effective - particularly for young people. The risk/reward for those under 50 (and even more so under 35) is lopsided in the favor of no vaccine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 7:24 PM, Gus said: Yeah, proven that it is not effective - particularly for young people. The risk/reward for those under 50 (and even more so under 35) is lopsided in the favor of no vaccine. Expand This is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 6:55 PM, Plasmodium said: COVID killed massive, massive numbers, whether people acknowledge it or not. Expand But it didn't kill massive numbers of those aged 0-50. That is a fact. And of those over 50 the kill rate was higher but total kill vs total in that age group was not all that great. Covid is a hysteria that has no basis in science or in statistics. Young kids don't get it and therefore don't spread it. They don't have any role to play with regard to covid. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 7:51 PM, mspart said: But it didn't kill massive numbers of those aged 0-50. That is a fact. And of those over 50 the kill rate was higher but total kill vs total in that age group was not all that great. Covid is a hysteria that has no basis in science or in statistics. Young kids don't get it and therefore don't spread it. They don't have any role to play with regard to covid. mspart Expand Plasi "Reduced spread of disease is vital to society and kids need to to play their role along with everyone else. " This...and to address the vaccination claim Plasi made, the covid vaccine does NOT stop the spread or from people getting it so NO, kids should not be getting the shot...it literally provides no value to them, or their fellow old people. The older people and those with co-morbidities, sure, may help them personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 7:24 PM, Gus said: Yeah, proven that it is not effective - particularly for young people. The risk/reward for those under 50 (and even more so under 35) is lopsided in the favor of no vaccine. Expand What about those over 50/60 who's fitness app says they are 20? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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