nhs67 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Greetings All - It is great to have a good home to kick our feet up. I have a good one for us, as the title indicates. Penn State VS <Insert Your Team Here> The lineup from your team can be of your choosing (from this season, obviously), keep it what would be nominal or realistic please. Choose your starting weight and venue. The Penn State lineup should be from this (ST indicates expected starter... $HlT happens though), also be nominal/realistic and not conveniently choose a weaker lineup, please: 125 - Howard (ST), Steen, Shunk 133 - Bravo-Young (ST) 141 - Bartlett (ST), Levine 149 - Van Ness (ST), Levine, Berraclough 157 - Berraclough (ST), J. Lee, M. Lee, L. Haines 165 - Facundo (ST), M. Lee, J. Lee, L. Haines 174 - Starocci (ST) 184 - Brooks (ST) 197 - Dean (ST) 285 - Kerkvliet (ST), Nevills Good hunting, all. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 I will go with one of my teams, the University of Michigan. This match happens this season AT Penn State. The dual starts at 125. 125 Medley (UoM) VS Howard (PSU) I think we are going to see a Medley that is much improved, after a season behind Suriano. I also don't see a reason to believe Howard has jumped levels. The match was a one takedown match before. I think it will be that again, but in the other direction, and not going in to OT. 3-1, 4-2 style match in favor of Medley. I wouldn't be surprised to see an additional riding time point tacked on there, too. UoM 3 - PSU 0 133 Ragusin (UofM) VS Bravo-Young (PSU) Word out of the room is that Ragusin has jumped levels. Will it be enough? No. Will it keep it closer than 7/8 point losses like prior? Yes. RBY will win the TD battle 3-0 and the final score will be 7-3 with no riding time advantage either way. Tied 3 - 3 141 Mattin (UofM) VS Bartlett (PSU) I think by the time this match rolls around Mattin will have established himself as the clear frontrunner for Michigan. That said, this is going to always be a difficult matchup fot him. Bartlett is faster and a better wrestler, which will likely prevent Mattin from being able to grind away. I expect a comfortable 6-4, 8-5 style match, in which the match is never in doubt even if the score is close. PSU 6 - UofM 3 149 Lamer (UofM) VS Van Ness (PSU) Here is a scary possible match. I expect both to have jumped levels. Neither will gas the other. This is probably my most difficult match to call. I am going homer here and calling a 12-10 OT match win for Lamer. Tied 6 - 6 157 Lewan (UofM) VS J. Lee (PSU) I was a beluever in Berraclaugh last season and he never separated himself or provrd himself. I expect that this season, too. Coin flip told me Joe Lee. Lewan will be winning in his typical fashion then Lee will try a couple desparate things late, though, and los 8-3. UofM 9 - PSU 6 165 Amine (UofM) VS Facundo (PSU) This match goes in to OT at 4-4 in which Facundo had 2 takedowns and Amine had riding time. Facundo gets the TD in OT. Tied 9 - 9 174 Walker (UofM) VS Starocci (PSU) Walker is tough, just not on the level of Starocci. He will keep it from bonus, buy it won't be close. 8-2, 10-3 type match. PSU 12 - UofM 9 184 Finesilver (UofM) VS Brooks (PSU) Finesilver may win some matches using his much improved neutral game, but Brooks is just much better in every facet of the game here. 13-3, 15-5 type wide Major. PSU 16 - UofM 9 197 Striggow (UofM) - Dean (PSU) I was hoping to see Bullock give it a go, but the word is that he is under 184 as of now... wrong way to go. In either case, Dean wins via Technical Fall. PSU 21 - UofM 9 Parris (UofM) - Nevills (PSU) With the dual in hand, and Parris, now healthy and hungrier than ever, having BLAZED a path through everyone by now, Sanderson throws Nevills out there - indicating Kerk is on a pitch count. Rather easy, workmanlike Major 16-5. After the match he points at Kerkvliet. PSU 21 - UofM 13 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaTiger Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 125- Surtin - toss up 133- Brown - penn 141- Hart - miz 149- mauller -miz 157- jacques - toss up 165- O'Toole - miz 174- Mocco - Penn 184- Harman - penn 197- Elam - miz 285- Elam - penn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) OSU Ohio State University 125 Heinsleman v Howard- OSU decision. 3 133 Gonzalez v RBY- PSU Tech Fall. 5 141 D'Emilio v Bartlett OSU decision. 6 149 Sasso v SVN - OSU decision. 9 157 Paddy v Lee - OSU SV decision. 12 165 Karchla v Facundo - OSU decision. 15 174 Smith v Star - PSU decision. 8 184 Romero v Brooks - PSU decision. 11 197 Hoffman v Dean - PSU decision. 14 285 Orndorrf v Kerk - PSU major decision. 18 PSU 18 - OSU 15 Edited October 30, 2022 by MPhillips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, TampaTiger said: 125- Surtin - toss up 133- Brown - penn 141- Hart - miz 149- mauller -miz 157- jacques - toss up 165- O'Toole - miz 174- Mocco - Penn 184- Harman - penn 197- Elam - miz 285- Elam - penn What result do you have? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheTurtle Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Does anyone else other than myself think that brooks and dean could swap weight classes AND give PSU a shot at the all time points record at the ncaa tourney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, FearTheTurtle said: Does anyone else other than myself think that brooks and dean could swap weight classes AND give PSU a shot at the all time points record at the ncaa tourney? What would the pt. diff be if they switch and repeat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, FearTheTurtle said: Does anyone else other than myself think that brooks and dean could swap weight classes AND give PSU a shot at the all time points record at the ncaa tourney? No. Dean's greatest asset at 97 is his gas tank and pulling ahead in the 3rd period against the bigger fellas. At 84 I think his ceiling is 3rd place with many others that can knock him down a few pegs I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheTurtle Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 I don’t know. I just can’t see him repeating that awesome run he had last year. So many moments it seemed it could go either way. Maybe he could at 84? I don’t know, maybe brooks killing both 84 and 97 with no problem though. Mostly because he is from Maryland lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheTurtle Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, MPhillips said: What would the pt. diff be if they switch and repeat? I was honestly thinking 5 individual titles with the switch but 4 without. Won’t be routing for that or anything but mainly fearing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, FearTheTurtle said: I was honestly thinking 5 individual titles with the switch but 4 without. Won’t be routing for that or anything but mainly fearing that Another year at PSU makes Dean my favorite. Best room in the country from 174 through 285. I'd love to see Bastida blow everyone up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 49 minutes ago, FearTheTurtle said: Does anyone else other than myself think that brooks and dean could swap weight classes AND give PSU a shot at the all time points record at the ncaa tourney? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, gimpeltf said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, ionel said: I assume that's swapping them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheTurtle Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 lol That ain’t no way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Penn State vs. Arizona State 125 - Howard vs. Courtney - Courtney wins by Dec. 3-0 ASU 133 - Bravo-Young vs. McGee - B-Y wins by Dec. 3-3 tie 141 - Bartlett vs. Vasquez - Bartlett wins by Dec. 6-3 PSU 149 - Van Ness vs Parco - Parco wins by Dec. 6-6 tie 157 - Berraclough vs. Teemer - Teemer wins by MD - 10-6 ASU 165 - Facundo vs Negron - Facundo wins by Dec. - 10-9 ASU 174 - Starocci vs. Valencia - Starocci wins by MD - 13-10 PSU 184 - Brooks vs. Montalvo - Brooks wins by Dec. - 16-10 PSU 197 - Dean vs. Norfleet - Dean wins by MD - 20-10 PSU 285 - Kerkvliet vs Schultz - Schultz wins by Dec. - 20-13 PSU Obviously tho one injury in Penn State's lineup could alter this result quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittanychris Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Thumper said: Penn State vs. Arizona State 125 - Howard vs. Courtney - Courtney wins by Dec. 3-0 ASU 133 - Bravo-Young vs. McGee - B-Y wins by Dec. 3-3 tie 141 - Bartlett vs. Vasquez - Bartlett wins by Dec. 6-3 PSU 149 - Van Ness vs Parco - Parco wins by Dec. 6-6 tie 157 - Berraclough vs. Teemer - Teemer wins by MD - 10-6 ASU 165 - Facundo vs Negron - Facundo wins by Dec. - 10-9 ASU 174 - Starocci vs. Valencia - Starocci wins by MD - 13-10 PSU 184 - Brooks vs. Montalvo - Brooks wins by Dec. - 16-10 PSU 197 - Dean vs. Norfleet - Dean wins by MD - 20-10 PSU 285 - Kerkvliet vs Schultz - Schultz wins by Dec. - 20-13 PSU Obviously tho one injury in Penn State's lineup could alter this result quite a bit. Very fair, but don’t be shocked if Van Ness beats Parco. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Thumper said: Penn State vs. Arizona State 125 - Howard vs. Courtney - Courtney wins by Dec. 3-0 ASU 133 - Bravo-Young vs. McGee - B-Y wins by Dec. 3-3 tie 141 - Bartlett vs. Vasquez - Bartlett wins by Dec. 6-3 PSU 149 - Van Ness vs Parco - Parco wins by Dec. 6-6 tie 157 - Berraclough vs. Teemer - Teemer wins by MD - 10-6 ASU 165 - Facundo vs Negron - Facundo wins by Dec. - 10-9 ASU 174 - Starocci vs. Valencia - Starocci wins by MD - 13-10 PSU 184 - Brooks vs. Montalvo - Brooks wins by Dec. - 16-10 PSU 197 - Dean vs. Norfleet - Dean wins by MD - 20-10 PSU 285 - Kerkvliet vs Schultz - Schultz wins by Dec. - 20-13 PSU Obviously tho one injury in Penn State's lineup could alter this result quite a bit. If ASU is trailing by 10 going into heavyweight, does Zeke Jones go back to his playbook and pull Schultz while he is standing matside with his headgear on? 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: If ASU is trailing by 10 going into heavyweight, does Zeke Jones go back to his playbook and pull Schultz while he is standing matside with his headgear on? Wait ... who are you and where did you come from?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nittanychris said: Very fair, but don’t be shocked if Van Ness beats Parco. I'm seldom shocked by anything related to college wrestling. However I was shocked that theOpenmat.com and the TheMat have and are going to be shutting down their wrestling forums. Not so much theOpenmat.com. That place has been comatose for a very long time, i.e., very little sign of life. As to Van Ness beating Parco. Sure it could happen. I'll give you that. But Arizona State and Penn State aren't scheduled to face each other this season. And those two teams are not going to be in the same tournaments this season. So the only way those two guys could face each other this season would be at the NCAA tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, ionel said: Wait ... who are you and where did you come from?!! Snuck one past the keeper. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Thumper said: 184 - Brooks vs. Montalvo - Brooks wins by Dec. - 16-10 PSU Brooks Majors Montalvo 17-10...fify Edited October 30, 2022 by PortaJohn I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 52 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Brooks Majors Montalvo 17-10...fify I think Brooks is going to Major, or better, on everyone not PK or TH this season. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I think Brooks is going to Major, or better, on everyone not PK or TH or KR this season. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 Just now, MPhillips said: Fixed. I think he Majors your boy... again...? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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