Paul158 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Le duke said: This Russian 61kg kid is embarrassing. I’ve never seen a more blatant effort to stall and lengthen a match to recover. It’s pathetic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That was bad. Very surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takuto_Otoguro Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Le duke said: This Russian 61kg kid is embarrassing. I’ve never seen a more blatant effort to stall and lengthen a match to recover. It’s pathetic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Think that was bad? Watch his semi final haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Dark Energy said: Thanks for this. I can see this. I believe I’ve seen TDs that occur and legs are already laced and then a lace turn occurs and 2 points are again given. Total of 4. Seemed like this was a similar situation but I’m guessing I’m not appreciating something. That's what I was trying to say earlier. It's just the way it is. And that particular philosophy of scoring has been that way for decades. It actually loosened up some a while back in giving 3 then 4 for feet to back. But if it's from the mat, take your pick as to which 2 you want it to represent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 That was bad. Very surprising.I appreciate their skill but a lot of Russian and former Eastern Bloc wrestlers do this. Give me India and Iran. They wrestle hard, and honorably. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Messenbrink wins worlds, 16-5!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Le duke said: Messenbrink wins worlds, 16-5! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk nice job. Look forward to watching him this year. What state is he from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 nice job. Look forward to watching him this year. What state is he from.Wisconsin. We’ll see if he goes. Penn State doesn’t need him to kill everyone at NCAAs and he has an OLY RS in his pocket. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Is Berge going to go 184 or 197? Had a great tournament to take Bronze.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, Le duke said: Is Berge going to go 184 or 197? Had a great tournament to take Bronze. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk SDSU has Sloan at 197 so I assume 184. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnklePicker Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, Takuto_Otoguro said: Think that was bad? Watch his semi final haha. That match was so frustrating to watch. Couldn’t believe he pulled it out at the end after just giving up a point for not getting the hell up and wrestling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 That match was so frustrating to watch. Couldn’t believe he pulled it out at the end after just giving up a point for not getting the hell up and wrestling. I want to see refs start swiping like they do for back points in folk. New proposed rules: You have 10 seconds to return to center. 3min total injury time, unlimited blood time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnklePicker Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 If you’re a college coach. Who you taking if you could only have one…Shapiro or Messenbrink? I’ll go Shapiro. He just seems special. I think it was all the rolling around on that exercise hall that gives him that uncanny lateral motion. Messenbrink just so good at getting to the legs. That’s where Lilledahl and Berge struggled was just getting off an attack. Took Mitchell all of 1 sec to get a shot off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Le duke said: Wisconsin. We’ll see if he goes. Penn State doesn’t need him to kill everyone at NCAAs and he has an OLY RS in his pocket. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I would use the shirt. he will plenty of wrestling right in the wrestling room. Let Facundo have it this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnklePicker Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Also can we please acknowledge what a heck of a coach Ben Askren is. I know Mitchell’s dad was his HS coach but man, two junior world champs on your club is pretty impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnklePicker Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Le duke said: I want to see refs start swiping like they do for back points in folk. New proposed rules: You have 10 seconds to return to center. 3min total injury time, unlimited blood time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I mean they did bang him for a point. But it was so excessive. Ahh my elbow. Ok now it’s fine and I can get off the match winning shot 5 secs later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Two Gold. Two Silver. Four Bronze. Great team! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Le duke said: I want to see refs start swiping like they do for back points in folk. New proposed rules: You have 10 seconds to return to center. 3min total injury time, unlimited blood time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Who do we need to talk to get it done. We need wrestlingknownothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnklePicker Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Thing about messinbrink and Shapiro is they both wrestle so hard. They both also have a nasty club/collar tie. They just keep coming. I think Messenbrink may be a little more savvy in his leg attacks but Shapiro’s defense…my god. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Two Gold. Two Silver. Four Bronze. Great team! Really good tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnklePicker Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, AnklePicker said: If you’re a college coach. Who you taking if you could only have one…Shapiro or Messenbrink? I’ll go Shapiro. He just seems special. I think it was all the rolling around on that exercise hall that gives him that uncanny lateral motion. Messenbrink just so good at getting to the legs. That’s where Lilledahl and Berge struggled was just getting off an attack. Took Mitchell all of 1 sec to get a shot off. Meant Lilledahl and Mendez struggled. Neither one took barely any shots in their finals matches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, AnklePicker said: Meant Lilledahl and Mendez struggled. Neither one took barely any shots in their finals matches. They are very good wrestlers . Mendez without a red shirt did very well last year in college. Lilledahl is still in high school. I would take them both. I would also take the heavyweight from Iran.Mousmi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de4856 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Congrats to the MFS, as well as everyone else that helped contribute to an outstanding success here at this tournament. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preceptor Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Can anyone explain to me why Christian Carroll placed 10th and the wrestlers from AZE, FRA, and KAZ placed above him? I am not mad about it but I do not understand how they do the placing. FRA and KAZ were not pulled back into wrestle backs. AZE lost the same round as Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Can anyone explain to me why Christian Carroll placed 10th and the wrestlers from AZE, FRA, and KAZ placed above him? I am not mad about it but I do not understand how they do the placing. FRA and KAZ were not pulled back into wrestle backs. AZE lost the same round as Carroll.Comes down to the points of the individual matches. A loss where you lose 10-2 scores more team points than getting teched 11-0.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, AnklePicker said: Thing about messinbrink and Shapiro is they both wrestle so hard. They both also have a nasty club/collar tie. They just keep coming. I think Messenbrink may be a little more savvy in his leg attacks but Shapiro’s defense…my god. Your user name is appropriate when talking about Shapiro. Does he have the most lethal ankle pick in the tournament (he had five TDs off of an ankle pick)? I can't recall him ever getting stuck underneath after his own shot. Did anyone notice that he's at least 3-4 inches taller than Yianni? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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