Ban Basketball Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 If you follow the strict guidelines, you'll find this a harder exercise than you think. I still have only selected one, but second guess it all of the time. My son asked me last weekend, as he does many other music fans , that if there was a Mount Rushmore of musicians, which four musicians should be on it? Criteria to consider (which is what makes it so tough): Individuals, no bands. Your consideration must include everything: talent, impact on music, impact on the world, etc. Can (and should) include any style of music. He dropped it on a bunch of us at a family gathering last weekend. No one came up with all four at once, but here were some smattering of names mentioned at the gathering. Beethoven, Prince (what?!), Joni Mitchell (what?!), Bob Dylan, Ozzy Osbourne, Michael Jackson, Shania Twain (what?!), John Lennon, and Paul McCartney. My one and only pick, influenced by my other son, is Bob Dylan, but I question it every day. 1 Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 On a lighter note than some recent threads, I like this one... Willie Nelson Elvis Hendrix Aretha Dylan is runner-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) I'll keep adding if and when I come up with more, but, for now, I will commit to these two. That's all that I have for now. 1. Bob Dylan 2. Elvis Edited August 12, 2023 by Ban Basketball Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: On a lighter note than some recent threads, I like this one... Willie Nelson Elvis Hendrix Aretha Dylan is runner-up How the heck did several members of my family, myself included, NOT think of Elvis!? He's immediately #2 for me. And, most surprisingly, I'm not even remotely an Elvis fan. Never listen to him. Edited August 12, 2023 by Ban Basketball 1 Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) Hmmm... have to admit, this is actually quite a bit harder than I thought it would be (you were right.) Here's my updated Rushmore list: Johnny Cash Elvis (I'm not a big fan either, but some of my family are huge fans.) Aretha Franklin Jim Morrison I'm sure I'll want to change it tomorrow. Edited August 13, 2023 by GreatWhiteNorth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 My youngest son is the one that poses this question to music fans, and he has finally added a third to his list. Forever, he had Ozzy and Michael Jackson only. After this morning, when he and I discussed, Elvis, he now has a third (and he loathes Elvis). I have several reservations with this exercise, but one that I can't escape is how I am very ignorant of classical and jazz styles of music. I just KNOW that I'm not doing this justice by not taking into account these styles, particularly classical music. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Since nobody else is playing the game, I'll just make one more post before I finish: Johnny Cash Elvis James Taylor Madonna Good thread, thanks Ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerniePragle Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Roy Clark Stevie Ray Willie Nelson John Lennon/Paul McCartney (Sorry, bent the rules) HM, Ann Wilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 Second guessing all of it, but I think I'm at: 1. Bob Dylan 2. Elvis 3. Buddy Holly Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Bob Marley Carlton Bennet Bunny Wailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Bob Dylan John Hiatt Paul Westerberg For me it comes down to how creative their lyrics are. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Interesting that Brahms, Beethoven, Handel, Mozart etc are not on the list. Not that I like classical music but their genius is almost beyond compare. Or is this an exercise about modern english speaking musicians? If the latter: Jimmy Page Eric Clapton Elton John Carol King mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, mspart said: Interesting that Brahms, Beethoven, Handel, Mozart etc are not on the list. Not that I like classical music but their genius is almost beyond compare. Or is this an exercise about modern english speaking musicians? If the latter: Jimmy Page Eric Clapton Elton John Carol King mspart I agree with you, and why I am reluctant to actually attempt to do this exercise. I KNOW I'm probable dead wrong, as I'm not even considering classical and other styles of music. I don't know enough about it to put any of those names "up there" and I just know that my list isn't really going to be accurate. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 12:51 PM, mspart said: Interesting that Brahms, Beethoven, Handel, Mozart etc are not on the list. Not that I like classical music but their genius is almost beyond compare. Note that an earlier post: On 8/12/2023 at 12:11 AM, Ban Basketball said: Criteria to consider (which is what makes it so tough): Individuals, no bands. Your consideration must include everything: talent, impact on music, impact on the world, etc. Can (and should) include any style of music. None of the classical greats qualify as "individuals" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) ... and on that note, my updated list is: Johnny Cash Elvis Bruce Springsteen Madonna (And what is kind of crazy is that JC is the only one on the list that I a personally a big fan of.) Edited August 17, 2023 by GreatWhiteNorth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted August 18, 2023 Author Share Posted August 18, 2023 18 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: Note that an earlier post: None of the classical greats qualify as "individuals" Didn't they compose the pieces? 1 Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 57 minutes ago, Ban Basketball said: Didn't they compose the pieces? Tough call. If it's an "Individuals, no bands" situation - then it would seem to also be a "no orchestras" situation. Even if the leader of the band (yes, I snuck in Dan Fogelberg there) composed everything - seems like the band is still not qualified. But what if the band's songs were all written by somebody not in the band? This game is tricky. You can't name a band for a face on Mount Rushmore. Doesn't mean you can't name the key person in a band... or as part of an orchestra. Or someone not even in the band. That 'criteria' could be interpreted in different ways. Way more difficult than meets the eye - this is about as difficult as naming the Hodge Trophy winner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 My personal Mt Rushmore would be Johnny Cash, Marty Robbins, Alan Jackson, Merle Haggard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Gus said: My personal Mt Rushmore would be Johnny Cash, Marty Robbins, Alan Jackson, Merle Haggard Great choices. I would throw in George Jones. (He stopped loving her today) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 I have a mens Mt. Rushmore George Jones,Kenny Rogers, Glen Campbell and George Strait I also have a Womens Mt. Rushmore Linda Ronstadt, Jewel, Patsy Cline, and Martina McBride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 10 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: Tough call. If it's an "Individuals, no bands" situation - then it would seem to also be a "no orchestras" situation. Even if the leader of the band (yes, I snuck in Dan Fogelberg there) composed everything - seems like the band is still not qualified. But what if the band's songs were all written by somebody not in the band? This game is tricky. You can't name a band for a face on Mount Rushmore. Doesn't mean you can't name the key person in a band... or as part of an orchestra. Or someone not even in the band. That 'criteria' could be interpreted in different ways. Way more difficult than meets the eye - this is about as difficult as naming the Hodge Trophy winner. We should have a separate category for just bands to be fair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban Basketball Posted August 18, 2023 Author Share Posted August 18, 2023 I personally think that many of these aren't super well thought out, but, oh well. 3 Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 10 hours ago, Paul158 said: Great choices. I would throw in George Jones. (He stopped loving her today) The Opossum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Gus said: The Opossum He lead a very exciting life to say the least. But he really pulled together at the end. Great Country singer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Ban Basketball said: I personally think that many of these aren't super well thought out, but, oh well. I think its ok. Have some fun with it. We get to take a break from all the other crazy stuff we talk about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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