CoachC Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 With the PAC 12 dissolving for football, Oregon St and Stanford could lose big television money, even if they get picked up by the Mtn West Conference, which has a significantly lesser payday than what the PAC 12 had. If they become an Independent, it could even cost them more athletic department money. I say this, because if there is less money, schools look to chop programs. I hope this doesn't screw wrestling, but I have a bad feeling that it might. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 The perceived payday that the PAC schools were going to receive was around $20 million. Not only was that too low, members feared it might end up being lower on the subscription based plan. Mountain West distributed some $80 million this last year. Under $7 million per. Early estimates come in at ~$10-12 milion if the four fold in the the MWest. That is a significant drop. I think both will be fine for wrestling and can possibly get in to the B12 as partial members in the short term. Stanford is probably fine either way as their endowment is not tied to their athletic department specifically. Oregon State needs some serious help, though. Cal State - Baptist might be screwed as a D1 program, though. The B12 won't take them. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 the commish was delaying the release of the tv deal to keep people from having options, in my opinion. you knew, that once he said apple tv that it was over. the b12 courted the pac12 to create a super conference. I have heard: the pac12 balked, b/c the big12 had schools with religious affiliation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Scouts Honor said: the commish was delaying the release of the tv deal to keep people from having options, in my opinion. you knew, that once he said apple tv that it was over. the b12 courted the pac12 to create a super conference. I have heard: the pac12 balked, b/c the big12 had schools with religious affiliation. I thought it was the other way? In that case Cal Baptist is fine. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyhoyle Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Greed killed college athletics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 why would the b12 have problems with religious schools? they have byu and tcu... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: why would the b12 have problems with religious schools? they have byu and tcu... He's talking about the Pac 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 5 hours ago, nhs67 said: Cal State - Baptist might be screwed as a D1 program, though. The B12 won't take them. I had this backwards btw. SAFE 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: why would the b12 have problems with religious schools? they have byu and tcu... Had it backwards, mate. Also, Cal Baptist is already in the B12. Edited August 5, 2023 by nhs67 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitleIX is ripe for reform Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, nhs67 said: Cal State - Baptist might be screwed as a D1 program, though. The B12 won't take them. I'm deleting my response upon seeing your self-correction. Is there a way to delete a post such as this? I don't see it. Ah well. Edited August 5, 2023 by TitleIX is ripe for reform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TitleIX is ripe for reform said: I'm deleting my response upon seeing your self-correction. Is there a way to delete a post such as this? I don't see it. Ah well. Bob says you shouldv've thought about that before you posted.. You have to bribe Bob with ten bags of sunflower seeds. Edited August 5, 2023 by ionel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 22 hours ago, CoachC said: but I have a bad feeling that it might. Oregon State has a significant endowment and is 100% supported by the university...it's not going anywhere. 3 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, nhs67 said: The perceived payday that the PAC schools were going to receive was around $20 million. Not only was that too low, members feared it might end up being lower on the subscription based plan. Mountain West distributed some $80 million this last year. Under $7 million per. Early estimates come in at ~$10-12 milion if the four fold in the the MWest. That is a significant drop. I think both will be fine for wrestling and can possibly get in to the B12 as partial members in the short term. Stanford is probably fine either way as their endowment is not tied to their athletic department specifically. Oregon State needs some serious help, though. Cal State - Baptist might be screwed as a D1 program, though. The B12 won't take them. Edited August 6, 2023 by TexRef . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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