Dark Energy Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Just watched Iowa’s Bennet clearly and obviously drag Army’s Sanchez OOB while riding on top. Called action by ref. B S Bennett drove the action OOB to avoid a potential scoring action. Text book stalling. CALL IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Dark Energy said: Just watched Iowa’s Bennet clearly and obviously drag Army’s Sanchez OOB while riding on top. Called action by ref. B S Bennett drove the action OOB to avoid a potential scoring action. Text book stalling. CALL IT! Too bad it wasn't in Carver, because those Iowa fans would certainly call for the stall. Right? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Too bad it wasn't in Carver, because those Iowa fans would certainly call for the stall. Right? Without a doubt on the guy not wearing black. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerniePragle Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, ionel said: Without a doubt on the guy not wearing black. Fleeing the mat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 yes, only Iowa does that, to those piling on. i agree, stalling should be called much more often. in particular, if hanging on to an ankle with a hand earns a five count, why doesn't hooking the ankle with my leg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 21 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: yes, only Iowa does that, to those piling on. i agree, stalling should be called much more often. in particular, if hanging on to an ankle with a hand earns a five count, why doesn't hooking the ankle with my leg? Because they are very different things even though they both involve the ankle. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Because they are very different things even though they both involve the ankle. yes it is much easier to stall with a leg hooked with a leg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: yes it is much easier to stall with a leg hooked with a leg Just playing devils advocate here...but with the ankle hooked would they consider that "riding" and not stalling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, TexRef said: Just playing devils advocate here...but with the ankle hooked would they consider that "riding" and not stalling? Think its called the "Penn State ride." 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, ionel said: Think its called the "Penn State ride." And yet it is free for all to use. I never understood why everyone is so up in arms and ankles about it. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: And yet it is free for all to use. I never understood why everyone is so up in arms and ankles about it. Nah ... pretty sure Penn St "owns" it. But really ... both arms & ankles?! PS: don't go all TBar on me here, tis but a friendly jab. Edited November 18, 2022 by ionel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: And yet it is free for all to use. I never understood why everyone is so up in arms and ankles about it. TBar? 2 1 Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, jchapman said: TBar? A blast from the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 And yet it is free for all to use. I never understood why everyone is so up in arms and ankles about it.And it’s not stalling. Which people should know if they read the rule book.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spladle08 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 So you're saying we should lessen stalling on top and find a way to penalize going out of bounds.... There is this one style.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKHUNTER Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 used the way I used trapping an ankle wasn't to stall......rather I used it to help control hips to help break a guy down ( I would lift and twist with my leg and hip).......... certainly not a stall ride when used in this manner. But just hooking and sitting on it is certainly stalling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 27 minutes ago, ionel said: Nah ... pretty sure Penn St "owns" it. But really ... both arms & ankles?! PS: don't go all TBar on me here, tis but a friendly jab. I will put you in a verbal bow and arrow so fast.... Which leads to another point. Without the ankle scoop there is no bow and arrow. I will be damned if I let anyone speak ill of the bow and arrow. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I will put you in a verbal bow and arrow so fast.... Which leads to another point. Without the ankle scoop there is no bow and arrow. I will be damned if I let anyone speak ill of the bow and arrow. ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, TexRef said: Just playing devils advocate here...but with the ankle hooked would they consider that "riding" and not stalling? perhaps... some people consider riding stalling... but another question.. isn't it easier to control the ankle when hooking your leg and sitting on it then just your four fingers? not that hangin on with your hand shouldn't be stalling... but the other as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said: And yet it is free for all to use. I never understood why everyone is so up in arms and ankles about it. im not angry with PSU doing it.. as you said anyone can... but why isn't it a five count, if simply grasping the ankle with your hand is.. and i did this ride in high school... and taught it as a coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 56 minutes ago, Le duke said: And it’s not stalling. Which people should know if they read the rule book. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk curious... havn't seen a rule book in years... what does it say specifically about this ride... and again, ipose the question.. how a hand grasping the ankle a five count. but sitting on the ankle not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: curious... havn't seen a rule book in years... what does it say specifically about this ride... and again, ipose the question.. how a hand grasping the ankle a five count. but sitting on the ankle not? or compared to the head & arm lock - now a 5 second Edited November 18, 2022 by ionel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Light Energy said: Bennett drove the action OOB to avoid a potential scoring action. Text book stalling. CALL IT! I like that Gable Energy where Dan calls stalling in front of Dan's statue calling stalling. Edited November 18, 2022 by jross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKHUNTER Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 the rule book says you must continue to try "to improve your position" a great example of refs not doing their job............. wrestler A shoots....wrestler B spralls.....wrestler A locks hands and waits for the ref to call a stalemate with NO effort to "improve" his position. That is freaking STALLING! I got ahold of that leg a LOT.......... I would never have thought to not continue to improve from that position. The refs have the absolute responsibility to call what they KNOW is stalling. I know a college ref very well who actually calls stalling. He has many times told me how refs will tell him they will stop a match when they know a guy is going to end up backing off the mat. That way they don't have to call it. Refs not calling stalling is HUGE problem for our sport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 8 hours ago, AKHUNTER said: the rule book says you must continue to try "to improve your position" a great example of refs not doing their job............. wrestler A shoots....wrestler B spralls.....wrestler A locks hands and waits for the ref to call a stalemate with NO effort to "improve" his position. That is freaking STALLING! I got ahold of that leg a LOT.......... I would never have thought to not continue to improve from that position. The refs have the absolute responsibility to call what they KNOW is stalling. I know a college ref very well who actually calls stalling. He has many times told me how refs will tell him they will stop a match when they know a guy is going to end up backing off the mat. That way they don't have to call it. Refs not calling stalling is HUGE problem for our sport. But we also really want consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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