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irony of ironies..

illinois

At 5pm yesterday, when no one was paying attention, Pritzker signed a bill to allow illegal immigrants to become police officers, giving non-citizens the power to arrest citizens in our state. No sane state would allow foreign nationals to arrest their citizens, this is madness!

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13 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

irony of ironies..

illinois

At 5pm yesterday, when no one was paying attention, Pritzker signed a bill to allow illegal immigrants to become police officers, giving non-citizens the power to arrest citizens in our state. No sane state would allow foreign nationals to arrest their citizens, this is madness!

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2 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

irony of ironies..

illinois

At 5pm yesterday, when no one was paying attention, Pritzker signed a bill to allow illegal immigrants to become police officers, giving non-citizens the power to arrest citizens in our state. No sane state would allow foreign nationals to arrest their citizens, this is madness!

What source are you copy pasting irresponsibly from?

Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge

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I can't believe we are almost on page 3 of this thread and no one mentioned covid origins. Literally the most retarded attempt by the establishment to say "the science is settled" during the whole covid debacle.

When you mix science with politics you get politics. This is readily apparent in all things covid-related and no doubt many other fields with political implications. "Follow the science" always meant "don't question the establishment narrative". And as we've found with covid, the "experts" got just about every single thing wrong that they tried to censor which, of course, is why they tried to censor it in the first place.

 

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3 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Nope. That is not the source he copy pasted from.

It’s what he is referring to, which Pritzker signed yesterday. And yes, illegal aliens can get U visas and become police officers in Illinois now. F’ing ridiculous.

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4 minutes ago, Theo Brixton said:

I can't believe we are almost on page 3 of this thread and no one mentioned covid origins. Literally the most retarded attempt by the establishment to say "the science is settled" during the whole covid debacle.

When you mix science with politics you get politics. This is readily apparent in all things covid-related and no doubt many other fields with political implications. "Follow the science" always meant "don't question the establishment narrative". And as we've found with covid, the "experts" got just about every single thing wrong that they tried to censor which, of course, is why they tried to censor it in the first place.

 

I don’t think that even needs to be said at this point. The travesty is nobody will be held responsible. 

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7 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

If they have a visa they are not illegal.

U visas are given to undocumented immigrants (illegal immigrants). It allows them to work for 4 years and can get an extension or a green card after 3 years.

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3 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

irony of ironies..

illinois

At 5pm yesterday, when no one was paying attention, Pritzker signed a bill to allow illegal immigrants to become police officers, giving non-citizens the power to arrest citizens in our state. No sane state would allow foreign nationals to arrest their citizens, this is madness!

Speaking of other stupid Illinois stuff, Chicago has these yellow vest wearing “peace keepers” this summer, and so far at least one has been arrested for robbery and battery (while wearing the vest) and another got shot last weekend, which was retaliation for an earlier shooting (by the peace keeper)… Oh, and said peace keeper was on electronic monitoring for a felony weapons charge.

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14 minutes ago, DJT said:

U visas are given to undocumented immigrants (illegal immigrants). It allows them to work for 4 years and can get an extension or a green card after 3 years.

You have conveniently left out so many key details. The u visa was created as part of the attempt to prosecute human trafficers who have brought people hear against their will. You only qualify for a u visa if you help law enforcement prosecute a specific set of crimes, like if you were kidnapped and brought to the US against your will.

The new law does not allow illegal immigrants to become cops. It allows non-citizens who are legally authorized to work in the US to apply to become cops. 

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2 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

You have conveniently left out so many key details. The u visa was created as part of the attempt to prosecute human trafficers who have brought people hear against their will. You only qualify for a u visa if you help law enforcement prosecute a specific set of crimes, like if you were kidnapped and brought to the US against your will.

The new law does not allow illegal immigrants to become cops. It allows non-citizens who are legally authorized to work in the US to apply to become cops. 

The U visa is not just for people “brought here against their will.” Sure, kidnapping could be the necessary crime, as are being beaten, robbed, defrauded, raped, etc. by a trafficker/ smuggling ring.

So many people have applied for the U Visa that it’d take 17 years to approve all of them (10,000/year), so work authorization is granted without the U visa being approved if the petition is complete. This is a major loophole that illegals have been attempting to exploit for over 20 years, so law enforcement agencies have cracked down on it by not certifying that the petitioner is a victim and/or aiding in an investigation, even when they are.

Either way, Illinois’ law should be challenged in federal court, and I expect it will be. 

More stupid Illinois news: Illinois gave away $5.2B in fraudulent unemployment (a lot to dead people and inmates) during Covid, with $3.2B of that being federal money.

Also, Dick being a dick:

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4 hours ago, DJT said:

It’s what he is referring to, which Pritzker signed yesterday. And yes, illegal aliens can get U visas and become police officers in Illinois now. F’ing ridiculous.

It's like now that immigrants get visas and can become police officers (after they went through training and passed all the necessary requirements.)

It's... well, not sure how to describe it other than it sounds legitimate to me.

If you remember, the stereotypical Irish policeman from old school movies was based on the fact that many Irish immigrants did, in fact, become police officers. They were immigrants and were in a position to take whatever jobs they could get. Being a police officer, at the time, was one of the less desirable jobs available. So, a perfect fit.

Doesn't sound all that much different than today.

 

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9 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

What source are you copy pasting irresponsibly from?

i must admit... this is wrong. 

House Bill 3751 permits anyone who is not a U.S. citizen but is legally authorized to work in the country under federal law to apply to become a police officer or a sheriff's deputy. The bill that has been on the governor's desk since June 16 has its critics to include the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police, FOP.Jul 8, 2023

legally authorized to work.

this copy/paste is from the same site. google.

i apologize. 

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