Paul158 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said: Bury him. https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/just-security-model-prosecution-memo-trump-classified-documents-second-edition-june-2023.pdf Why would you want to bury Joe Biden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Paul158 said: Why would you want to bury Joe Biden? Didn't read the page? Quote Executive Summary This model prosecution memorandum assesses potential charges federal prosecutors may bring against former President Donald Trump. It focuses on those emanating from his handling of classified documents and other government records since leaving office on January 20, 2021. It includes crimes related to the removal and retention of national security information and obstruction of the investigation into his handling of these documents. The authors have decades of experience as federal prosecutors and defense lawyers, as well as other legal expertise. Based upon this experience and the analysis that follows, we conclude that Trump should–and likely will–be charged. Before indicting a case, prosecutors prepare a prosecution memo (or “pros memo”) that lays out admissible evidence, possible charges, and legal issues. This document provides a basis for prosecutors and their supervisors to assess whether the case meets the standard set forth in the Federal Principles of Prosecution, which permit prosecution only when there is sufficient evidence to obtain and sustain a conviction. Before a decision is made about bringing charges against Trump (and co-conspirators, if any), prosecutors will prepare such a memo. There is sufficient evidence to obtain and sustain a conviction here, if the information gleaned from government filings and statements and voluminous public reporting is accurate. Indeed, the DOJ is likely now, or shortly will be, internally circulating a pros memo of its own saying so. That DOJ memo will, however, be highly confidential, in part because it will contain information derived through the grand jury and attorney work product. Since it will not be publicly available, we offer this analysis. Ours is likely more detailed than what DOJ will prepare internally for explanatory purposes. But, given the gravity of the issues here, our memo provides a sense of how prosecutors will assemble and evaluate the considerations that they must assess before making a prosecution decision. Our memo analyzes six federal crimes in depth: Let me help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said: Didn't read the page? Let me help. Who is exactly our memo ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 On 6/3/2023 at 12:28 PM, Paul158 said: Who is exactly our memo ? WHat? Are you new? Our nemo... right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 9 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: WHat? Are you new? Our nemo... right here. Hey! He's a clown fish... He knows funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 10 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: WHat? Are you new? Our nemo... right here. The very last line is ( our memo analyzes six federal crimes in depth) . So the question again is who is OUR MEMO ? Its the very last line. Mike posted it . It says Executive summary at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 51 minutes ago, Paul158 said: The very last line is ( our memo analyzes six federal crimes in depth) . So the question again is who is OUR MEMO ? Its the very last line. Mike posted it . It says Executive summary at the top. Are you trying to ask, "Who wrote the memo?" ? Quote who is OUR MEMO ? That's not a real sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 From the first page: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Wow. A new low. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-desantis-2024primary-personal-attacks-1234765006/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 now you are sending rolling stone links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 i'm not saying echo chamber... but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 That seems bad... https://murraywaas.substack.com/p/exclusive-mark-meadows-removed-classified The gang of eight plus the heads of the house and senate intelligence committees have just been taken to the SCIF under the capitol. DUN! DUN! DUN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 https://www.archives.gov/research/recover/notable-thefts.html Will Meadows get the same treatment? Seems pretty light for stealing classified documents. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, mspart said: https://www.archives.gov/research/recover/notable-thefts.html Will Meadows get the same treatment? Seems pretty light for stealing classified documents. mspart I'm reading that Meadows stopped using Trump lawyers about 6 months ago and hired himself a DC shark. Word is that he has a limited immunity deal contingent on his truthful testimony and will likely be charged/plead to several lesser charges. That's a damned good deal and he should pay his attorney a large bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 I wonder what Sandy Berger had to do to get the sweet deal he got. Oh yeah, he was the Clintons' right hand man. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7351422 Berger pleads guilty to taking classified info Sandy Berger, who was President Clinton’s top national security aide, pleaded guilty Friday to taking classified documents from the National Archives and cutting them up with scissors. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 40 minutes ago, mspart said: I wonder what Sandy Berger had to do to get the sweet deal he got. Oh yeah, he was the Clintons' right hand man. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7351422 Berger pleads guilty to taking classified info Sandy Berger, who was President Clinton’s top national security aide, pleaded guilty Friday to taking classified documents from the National Archives and cutting them up with scissors. mspart Maybe he cooperated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 Maybe. After getting caught shredding classified documents with scissors, that might have been his best play. But that is way worse than having documents. Stealing and destroying classified documents is much more serious than just stealing classified documents. Unless they are alleging Meadows destroyed them. I have no idea about that, this is the first I have heard of it. But even by destroying the documents, you have to admit Berger got off easy. Apparently it is not that big of a deal like most would think. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, mspart said: Maybe. After getting caught shredding classified documents with scissors, that might have been his best play. But that is way worse than having documents. Stealing and destroying classified documents is much more serious than just stealing classified documents. Unless they are alleging Meadows destroyed them. I have no idea about that, this is the first I have heard of it. But even by destroying the documents, you have to admit Berger got off easy. Apparently it is not that big of a deal like most would think. mspart Regardless, whatever anybody else did doesn't make Meadows any less culpable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) I kinda feel like MP and mspart are much like Tucker Carlson and Rachel Maddow…..same dudes just on different sides of the fence. And those copy/paste skills… Edited June 9, 2023 by WrestlingRasta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: I kinda feel like MP and mspart are much like Tucker Carlson and Rachel Maddow…..same dudes just on different sides of the fence. And those copy/paste skills… I'm gonna guess that we're both offended by that comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 comparing anyone to Maddow are straight up fighting words... might as well go slap their mama... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, LJB said: comparing anyone to Maddow are straight up fighting words... might as well go slap their mama... Leaving out of the ‘dudes’ equation was not an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, WrestlingRasta said: Leaving out of the ‘dudes’ equation was not an accident. she is considerably more masculine than anyone else mentioned in that post... and it goes without saying... just the absolute worst... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, LJB said: she is considerably more masculine than anyone else mentioned in that post... and it goes without saying... just the absolute worst... Appropriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, LJB said: she is considerably more masculine than anyone else mentioned in that post... and it goes without saying... just the absolute worst... Do you find Tucker effeminate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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