Plasmodium Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 35 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: MAGA is not a slur, it is a name or acronym for a political platform, an acronym created and embraced by the people within. We all remember the “it’s not maga or super maga….it’s ultra maga” proclamation on the house floor, right? Really? Call me MAGA and we're stepping outside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, DJT said: Biden and the White House (before the ethics office got involved) declared he was working to defeat MAGA policies. Corporate media constantly uses MAGA with the intention to denigrate groups of people and policies. I suppose it’s used in the same way as the right uses Marxist to describe the left and their policies. That’s where I’m confused by the left’s “redefining” of MAGA to mean something bad, when it is Make America Great vs Marxism. I guess progressives think there are more Americans who agree with Marxism than those who want to make America great. Nothing wrong with making America great. BTW, are you anti-fascist? If so, let's just call you antifa for short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, DJT said: Speaking of, what’s going on with the USWNT? It seems they’re more concerned with not singing the national anthem for Megyn Kelly than they are with winning games. That pretty much fits my observation, doesn't look good for next match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said: Agreed, which is why you hear “we are ultra marxists” from representative on the house floor, and see “marxists” hats at campaign rallies. I suppose it’s the same. Not an extremist point of view at all. Not one bit extreme. Progressives espouse and celebrate the canon of Karl Marx, but they avoid labeling themselves as such as everyone knows Marxism isn’t palatable, given the atrocities that unavoidably come with it. 99% of the current progressive agenda is based on critical theory. Pretty much every part of their platform is about declaring one group or another to have a power advantage/ disadvantage, and think the state needs to fix it no matter how much it damages the country. What is extreme is the amount of people on the left who call Trump, MAGA and conservatives in general fascists, white nationalists, white supremacists, racists, etc., just because the politics of the right don’t declare winners and losers, which only serves to divide the nation. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Some misconceptions about classified documents have been posted here. There is no similarity between Trump’s handling of classified documents and Pence, Biden, or Hiliary. Trump was a president and none of the others were. The president has ultimate authority over classification. Nobody is above him. Nobody can challenge his authority. Nobody has equal authority to him. If a president divulges secret information it is not considered a leak, it is considered declassified. The judge in the Clinton sock drawer case explained the records that a president takes with him when he leaves office as both, considered declassified, and personal records of the former president’s. He has a two year period for which he has complete authority over them, and a ten year period against FOIA requirements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Some misconceptions about classified documents have been posted here. There is no similarity between Trump’s handling of classified documents and Pence, Biden, or Hiliary. Trump was a president and none of the others were. The president has ultimate authority over classification. Nobody is above him. Nobody can challenge his authority. Nobody has equal authority to him. If a president divulges secret information it is not considered a leak, it is considered declassified. The judge in the Clinton sock drawer case explained the records that a president takes with him when he leaves office as both, considered declassified, and personal records of the former president’s. He has a two year period for which he has complete authority over them, and a ten year period against FOIA requirements Maybe someone needs to explain that to NARA. Maybe tell Jack Smith also. This is some good information .Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 29 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Some misconceptions about classified documents have been posted here. There is no similarity between Trump’s handling of classified documents and Pence, Biden, or Hiliary. Trump was a president and none of the others were. The president has ultimate authority over classification. Nobody is above him. Nobody can challenge his authority. Nobody has equal authority to him. If a president divulges secret information it is not considered a leak, it is considered declassified. What Trump is in hot water over is what he did after he was president. The fact is that a has-been president is no longer an actual president. So, your entire post is founded on misinformation - at best. At worst, you seem to be attempting to spread misinformation. Which is something the f'ing Russians are trying to do on social media in the US. (Be better, the bar set by the f'ing Russians is very, very low.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Paul158 said: Maybe someone needs to explain that to NARA. Maybe tell Jack Smith also. This is some good information .Thanks Yeah, NARA has been around the block with Obama over like 30 million records he took, but in Trumps case, someone said: you’re wanting those records? Send a referral and we’ll help you out. It’s all back to that administrative state being politicized. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Offthemat said: Yeah, NARA has been around the block with Obama over like 30 million records he took, but in Trumps case, someone said: you’re wanting those records? Send a referral and we’ll help you out. It’s all back to that administrative state being politicized. When I saw your prior comment Obama came to my mind. I was wondering why NARA was handling all those documents so differently. Seems really strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 7 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: What Trump is in hot water over is what he did after he was president. The fact is that a has-been president is no longer an actual president. So, your entire post is founded on misinformation - at best. At worst, you seem to be attempting to spread misinformation. Which is something the f'ing Russians are trying to do on social media in the US. (Be better, the bar set by the f'ing Russians is very, very low.) Can you please explain why NARA is handling Obama's documents differently . Its been over 6 years since he took a large number of documents. Would it be fair to say NARA has no clue what Obama took with him. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 7 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: What Trump is in hot water over is what he did after he was president. The fact is that a has-been president is no longer an actual president. So, your entire post is founded on misinformation - at best. At worst, you seem to be attempting to spread misinformation. Which is something the f'ing Russians are trying to do on social media in the US. (Be better, the bar set by the f'ing Russians is very, very low.) NARA and the Obama Foundation had intended to work together to digitize the presidential records to create a digital archive. Did it not work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 These guys are so serious about the importance of Hunter Biden that Comer, who didn’t bother to take the time to show up for the Archer interview then went on TV and lied about what he said….has now gone on TV to cry about the media is not paying enough attention to it. I wonder why??? (Hint: because they’re not serious people) MAGA!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Paul158 said: When I saw your prior comment Obama came to my mind. I was wondering why NARA was handling all those documents so differently. Seems really strange. Your answers are within: https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2022/nr22-001 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Your answers are within: https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2022/nr22-001 Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Offthemat said: Yeah, NARA has been around the block with Obama over like 30 million records he took, but in Trumps case, someone said: you’re wanting those records? Send a referral and we’ll help you out. It’s all back to that administrative state being politicized. Obama did not take any records per NARA themselves. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 40 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: These guys are so serious about the importance of Hunter Biden that Comer, who didn’t bother to take the time to show up for the Archer interview then went on TV and lied about what he said….has now gone on TV to cry about the media is not paying enough attention to it. I wonder why??? (Hint: because they’re not serious people) MAGA!! It is because they have no proof of malfeasance, the investigation has no where to go. They are just hoping to string this along with sensational lies until next November, they know their base! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 10 hours ago, Offthemat said: Some misconceptions about classified documents have been posted here. There is no similarity between Trump’s handling of classified documents and Pence, Biden, or Hiliary. Trump was a president and none of the others were. The president has ultimate authority over classification. Nobody is above him. Nobody can challenge his authority. Nobody has equal authority to him. If a president divulges secret information it is not considered a leak, it is considered declassified. The judge in the Clinton sock drawer case explained the records that a president takes with him when he leaves office as both, considered declassified, and personal records of the former president’s. He has a two year period for which he has complete authority over them, and a ten year period against FOIA requirements Some very wrong info here. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Some very wrong info here. It’s from an Obama appointed judge in a case involving Bill Clinton. She outranks NARA. NARA and Obama may have come to some agreement, but no democrat, in a democrat operation, referred him to the DoG as was done in the case of Trump, and he has been out of office a lot longer than Trump. http://www.norcalblogs.com/postscripts/2018/06/10/national-archive-administrator-obama-records-missing/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 42 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: It is because they have no proof of malfeasance, the investigation has no where to go. They are just hoping to string this along with sensational lies until next November, they know their base! Sort of the same thing the DOJ and the prosecutors are doing with Trump. Will they succeed .Time will tell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 33 minutes ago, Paul158 said: Sort of the same thing the DOJ and the prosecutors are doing with Trump. Will they succeed .Time will tell. Just a partial list of the 86 witnesses who gave the indicting grand jury of citizens, incriminating evidence against Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Just a partial list of the 86 witnesses who gave the indicting grand jury of citizens, incriminating evidence against Trump. It will be a he said she said circus. Get your popcorn and your drink of choice ready.This will be Hollywood worthy. Maybe someone will win a Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Paul158 said: It will be a he said she said circus. Get your popcorn and your drink of choice ready.This will be Hollywood worthy. Maybe someone will win a Oscar. Only problem with that bit of wishful thinking….Trump is part of the ‘he said’ (you forgot, they have recordings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Only problem with that bit of wishful thinking….Trump is part of the ‘he said’ (you forgot, they have recordings) Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 These trials HAVE to be on TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, WrestlingRasta said: These trials HAVE to be on TV Can you imagine all the companies that have a lot of office personnel watching the proceedings on computers and phones when they should be doing their work. The networks would celebrating . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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