DJT Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, VakAttack said: No, because if the painter refuses to work with you, they're not discriminating against you based on a protected class. Ok, a gay black trans person asks a Jewish painter to paint “Muhammad sucked my d*ck in a Synagogue” on his fence … is that cool? Edited July 12, 2023 by DJT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, BobDole said: The bible I read said to forgive those who are sinners not to discriminate against them. i agree. Jesus also always said... go and sin no more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, VakAttack said: No, because if the painter refuses to work with you, they're not discriminating against you based on a protected class. this this right here is the problem why is there a protected class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDole Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Just now, Scouts Honor said: i agree. Jesus also always said... go and sin no more. Again, where is the discrimination part? You conveniently keep forgetting that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 27 minutes ago, VakAttack said: No, because if the painter refuses to work with you, they're not discriminating against you based on a protected class. so do you know what the cake baker was asked to put on the cake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, DJT said: Ok, a gay black trans person asks a Jewish painter to paint “Muhammad sucked my d*ck in a Synagogue” on his fence … is that cool? By saying no, you're still not discriminating against them base on any of the protected classes. 1 minute ago, Scouts Honor said: this this right here is the problem why is there a protected class? ...because of *gestures at American history* all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 27 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Just for clarification, the ruling does not say the owner is allowed to refuse service because they are gay, they are just not forcing the owner to decorate the message. In other words, if the (fake) customers decided okay just bake the cake and icing, we'll worry about the decoration....the owner would not have been able to legally refuse. this is correct 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 agree to disagree later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, VakAttack said: By saying no, you're still not discriminating against them base on any of the protected classes. What if the only thing he disagreed with is the d*ck part because he doesn’t believe the transman has one? Then would he have to paint it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDole Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, DJT said: What if the only thing he disagreed with is the d*ck part because he doesn’t believe the transman has one? Then would he have to paint it? You are one sick individual, I surely hope you don't work with kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, DJT said: What if the only thing he disagreed with is the d*ck part because he doesn’t believe the transman has one? Then would he have to paint it? I wonder why your ex thought everything you said was argumentative? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I wonder why your ex thought everything you said was argumentative? Once again, people take stuff way too seriously on here… I was obviously proposing a ridiculous scenario just to see where Vak would draw the line on compelled speech in the name of inclusiveness. The point is, there should be no line to cross where compelling speech becomes acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 56 minutes ago, DJT said: What if the only thing he disagreed with is the d*ck part because he doesn’t believe the transman has one? Then would he have to paint it? This obviously doesn't even make logical sense. He won't paint the word "dick" because he doesn't believe in trans people? You straining to find some chink in my armor is weird. I'm sure I have hypocrisies somewhere in my belief system. I'm a human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, DJT said: Once again, people take stuff way too seriously on here… I was obviously proposing a ridiculous scenario just to see where Vak would draw the line on compelled speech in the name of inclusiveness. The point is, there should be no line to cross where compelling speech becomes acceptable. It can be such a problem when no understands your genius. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: It can be such a problem when no understands your genius. It is quite exhausting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 11 hours ago, Husker_Du said: again, not going round and round with you. you're more focused on personal barbs than you are about the topic at hand, which, in this thread is 'merit'. frankly, i have no idea what you're talking about. re-read the thread maybe. Hah! Take another look at this thread, seems we got a whole lotta "not-topic-at-hand" posting. Which around here is also known as just another Wednesday. Can't wait for wrestling to start again. You remind me of LJB. He and I got off to a bad start but turns out he's not such a bad guy either. I guess sometimes we just need to work through our differences (which can take a while.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 9 hours ago, DJT said: Other ideas and perspectives? You mean conspiracy theories and fake news? No. No I do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: No. No I do not. I’m done posting flippant comments on this thread. It’s strictly serious from here on out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) i voted for obama the first time. the reason was this: one morning i was getting ready for work and the news showed one of his speeches. and he said, the right wants this, and the left wants the other, diametrically opposed, BUT, can't we all agree that THIS is a problem and we need to find a solution... i dont remember the specifics but i thought yeah. he didn't really govern that way, was he allowed or not .. he had control of govt for 2 years... i like to think that now he would say something like this the right wants to deny trans rights(which i dont believe), the left wants to make sure they aren't discriminated against, but can't we all agree that men in womens bathrooms is not a solution Edited July 16, 2023 by Scouts Honor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Scouts Honor said: i voted for obama the first time. the reason was this: one morning i was getting ready for work and the news showed one of his speeches. and he said, the right wants this, and the left wants the other, diametrically opposed, BUT, can't we all agree that THIS is a problem and we need to find a solution... i dont remember the specifics but i thought yeah. he didn't really govern that way, was he allowed or not .. he had control of govt for 2 years... i like to think that now he would say something like this the right wants to deny trans rights(which i dont believe), the left wants to make sure they aren't discriminated against, but can't we all agree that men in womens bathrooms is not a solution That post is incredibly weak: You are informing us that you voted for Obama... because something you can't remember. You note that he "didn't really govern that way"... which is a reference to the above point. The one where you don't really remember. Which is 100% useless to anyone reading your post. You then proceed to post as if you think you know what he might say. Too much weed... just too much weed. Edited July 17, 2023 by GreatWhiteNorth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 11 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: That post is incredibly weak: You are informing us that you voted for Obama... because something you can't remember. You note that he "didn't really govern that way"... which is a reference to the above point. The one where you don't really remember. Which is 100% useless to anyone reading your post. You then proceed to post as if you think you know what he might say. Too much weed... just too much weed. yes, i realize no one should expect you to understand anything that isn't spelled out word for word for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) aaaaannnddd. .. i was wrong about obama trying to find middle ground which basically tells me why he didn't govern that way. Edited July 17, 2023 by Scouts Honor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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