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32 minutes ago, BlacknGold said:

Wrestlestat bases that off returning points only, meaning someone like Drake Ayala counts for 0 points. It's a lame assessment. Michigan has a good roster but probably a better dual team than tournament

It’s not based off of their “ratings”?

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20 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Sounds like it is speculation from the Iowa board about who may be in trouble with the gambling scandal.  As told to me earlier, I don't believe this is verified - so just speculation at this point

Think Assad has Olympic redshirt for cadets still. Nonetheless, he never AA and is a senior so it's not like he has some death grip ownership of the weight class. He's a good wrestler but is owed nothing other than an opportunity and a scholarship

6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

It’s not based off of their “ratings”?

I think the ranking you're talking about is the one just based on returning tournament points. So Iowa would get 0 at 125 and 197 when obviously they will probably score points at those weight classes. Sort of a funky ranking

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6 hours ago, BlacknGold said:

I think the ranking you're talking about is the one just based on returning tournament points. So Iowa would get 0 at 125 and 197 when obviously they will probably score points at those weight classes. Sort of a funky ranking

That isn't how wrestlestat works at all.  If a wrestler has a single match in their career under their belt they will ne rated.

It even gives you a breakdown.

Weight Wrestler Rank/Place Plc + Adv
Points
Bonus
Points
Total
125 Ayala, Drake 11 (R12) 2 0 2
133 Teske, Brody 11 (R12) 2 1 3
141 Woods, Real 2 16 1.17 17.17
149 Voinovich, Victor 14 (NA) 1.5 0 1.5
157 Franek, Jared 5 10 0.32 10.32
165 Kennedy, Patrick 6 9 1.4 10.4
174 Brands, Nelson 6 9 0 9
184 Assad, Abe 12 (R12) 2 1 3
197 Glazier, Zach 24 (NA) 0 0 0
285 Cassioppi, Anthony 3 13.5 2.02 15.52
Totals 65.0 6.9 71.9

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8 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Sounds like it is speculation from the Iowa board about who may be in trouble with the gambling scandal.  As told to me earlier, I don't believe this is verified - so just speculation at this point

Yeah.  This is what I saw, I guess referring to a different sport’s forum on HR:

https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/hwc-wrestlers-competed-at-matteo-pellicone.420626/#post-11257476

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15 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Caliendo is the best of the bunch in my opinion.  Problem is that 165 is the hardest class.   He's one of a handful of people that has beat Shane Griffith and did so as a redshirt freshman out of a mid major program and earned All American.  However this all shakes out, I would prioritize the correct placement of Caliendo above all else.  

I agree.  I watched him in highschool, and he beat some really good kids. I don't know how his recruiting went, but i don't think there was a ton of folks on him were there?  He is a tough dude fo sho

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12 hours ago, 1032004 said:

I think they’re a pretty solid 3rd after adding Caliendo and Franek, but I’d still take Michigan over them for 2nd.

If they add AJ they probably pass Michigan.   And still likely only win a match or 2 against PSU…

They blow michigan out in the duel without aj

Ayala = > deaugustino

Teske < ragusin

Woods > Cannon

Whoever iowa throws out > mayora

Franek > lewan

Kennedy = < amine 

Brands < griffith

Assad > rogers

Whoever > yatooma

Cass > davison

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4 hours ago, nhs67 said:

That isn't how wrestlestat works at all.  If a wrestler has a single match in their career under their belt they will ne rated.

It even gives you a breakdown.

Weight Wrestler Rank/Place Plc + Adv
Points
Bonus
Points
Total
125 Ayala, Drake 11 (R12) 2 0 2
133 Teske, Brody 11 (R12) 2 1 3
141 Woods, Real 2 16 1.17 17.17
149 Voinovich, Victor 14 (NA) 1.5 0 1.5
157 Franek, Jared 5 10 0.32 10.32
165 Kennedy, Patrick 6 9 1.4 10.4
174 Brands, Nelson 6 9 0 9
184 Assad, Abe 12 (R12) 2 1 3
197 Glazier, Zach 24 (NA) 0 0 0
285 Cassioppi, Anthony 3 13.5 2.02 15.52
Totals 65.0 6.9 71.9

What I'm saying is they don't use projections for next season. Which would be a more accurate. Someone like Meyer Shapiro counts for 0? Ayala will score 2 points in next years tournament? Spare me

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2 hours ago, BlacknGold said:

What I'm saying is they don't use projections for next season. Which would be a more accurate. Someone like Meyer Shapiro counts for 0? Ayala will score 2 points in next years tournament? Spare me

Or you could admit you didn't know how it actually worked.  Your Shapiro case is accurate, but absolutely not what you meant.

Also, Ayala might score zero.  I think he is a contender, but he has to take the mat and not get injured.  Ratings are based off results, which Ayala has.

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7 hours ago, nhs67 said:

That isn't how wrestlestat works at all.  If a wrestler has a single match in their career under their belt they will ne rated.

It even gives you a breakdown.

Weight Wrestler Rank/Place Plc + Adv
Points
Bonus
Points
Total
125 Ayala, Drake 11 (R12) 2 0 2
133 Teske, Brody 11 (R12) 2 1 3
141 Woods, Real 2 16 1.17 17.17
149 Voinovich, Victor 14 (NA) 1.5 0 1.5
157 Franek, Jared 5 10 0.32 10.32
165 Kennedy, Patrick 6 9 1.4 10.4
174 Brands, Nelson 6 9 0 9
184 Assad, Abe 12 (R12) 2 1 3
197 Glazier, Zach 24 (NA) 0 0 0
285 Cassioppi, Anthony 3 13.5 2.02 15.52
Totals 65.0 6.9 71.9

Where do you find the projected place and bonus points?  I just see the 65

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1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Where do you find the projected place and bonus points?  I just see the 65

Rotate your phone to landscape.

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6 hours ago, hawkguy said:

They blow michigan out in the duel without aj

Ayala = > deaugustino

Teske < ragusin

Woods > Cannon

Whoever iowa throws out > mayora

Franek > lewan

Kennedy = < amine 

Brands < griffith

Assad > rogers

Whoever > yatooma

Cass > davison

OK after looking closer at the math I think you’re right that Iowa is likely above Michigan now, although they probably match up a little better with them in a dual than the tourney

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