Mizzou Fan Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Projecting Mizzou wins assuming they have a full Or close to full) lineup. Rocky Elam hasn't wrestled yet. Hart was out during this past weekend's tourn. due to illness. Colton Hawks beat Sean Harmon in Saturday's tourn finals. (Do we have a new starter at 184?) Courtney dec Surtain McGee dec Brown Hart dec Vasquez Mauller dec Parco Jacques maj dec Wilner O'Toole pin Negron Mocco maj dec Valencia Montalvo dec Hawks/Harmon Elam dec Norfleet Upset! Elam dec Schultz Thoughts? Lineup differences? Other opinions? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mizzou Fan said: Courtney dec Surtain ASU 3 - Mizz 0 McGee dec Brown ASU 6 - Mizz 0 Hart dec Vasquez ASU 6 - Mizz 3 Mauller dec Parco ASU 6 - Mizz 6 Jacques maj dec Wilner ASU 6 - Mizz 10 O'Toole pin Negron ASU 6 - Mizz 16 Mocco maj dec Valencia ASU 6 - Mizz 20 Montalvo dec Hawks/Harmon ASU 9 - Mizz 20 Elam dec Norfleet ASU 9 - Mizz 23 Upset! Elam dec Schultz ASU 9 - Mizz 26 Thoughts? Lineup differences? Other opinions? Added your scores for clarity. With ASU missing Teemer, Missouri has to be favored in 6 of 10, so yeah. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) In Arizona State's preview this is who they list of both squads... not much help: ASU Probable Lineup: - 125 - No. 5 Brandon Courtney: 2x All-American, 3x Pac-12 Champion or Richard Figueroa: Won bronze at 57 kg at the 2021 Junior Pan American Games - 133 - No. 4 Michael McGee: 2x All-American, Pac-12 Champion or Julian Chlebove: 7-6 record as Redshirt freshman, earning two tech falls and one major decision. - 141 - HM Jesse Vasquez: 7-1 before season-ending injury in 2021-22 season - 149 - No. 3 Kyle Parco: 2x All-American, Pac-12 Champion - 157 - Max Wilner: Appeared in 3 tournaments, earning a 7-4 overall record with 2 falls or Michael Kilic: 3x state champion in Georgia, 2x Fargo All-American (Greco-Roman Champion) - 165 - No. 19 Tony Negron: Transferred from Penn State where he went 5-0 at Edinboro Open - 174 - Cael Valencia: Redshirted last year, going 12-4 in open tournaments or Josh Nummer: Went 2-2 at the '22 Pac-12 Championships - 184 - No. 20 Anthony Montalvo: All-American, '20 Big-12 bronze medalist - 197 - Jonathon Fagen: Transferred from Cornell where he went 6-7 as a freshman or No. 15 Kordell Norfleet: 4x NCAA Qualifier, 4x Pac-12 Champion - HWT - No. 1 Cohlton Schultz: 2x Pac-12 Champion, 2x All-American, '22 NCAA runner-up or David Palosika: Did not compete last season Missouri Probable lineup: - 125 - No. 14 Noah Surtin: '22 NCAA qualifier - 133 - HM Connor Brown: '18 NCAA qualifier - 141 - No. 6 Allan Hart: 3x NCAA qualifier or Kordin Shepherd - 149 - No. 8 Brock Mauller: 3x All-American, '21 fifth place finish - 157 - No. 15 Jarrett Jacques: 4x NCAA qualifier - 165 - No. 1 Keegan O'Toole: Defending national champion, 2x All-American or James Conway - 174 - No. 9 Peyton Mocco: 3x NCAA qualifier - 184 - No. 22 Colton Hawks: Wrestled to an 8-3 record as unattached competitor last year or Sean Herman - 197 - No. 4 Rocky Elam: 2x All-American, '22 fourth place finish, '21 fifth place finish or Jesse Cassatt - HWT - No. 7 Zach Elam: 3x NCAA qualifier Edited November 15, 2022 by nhs67 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 This will be a great dual Courtney or Figs dec Surtain 3-0 McGee dec Brown 6-0 Hart dec Vasquez 6-3 Parco dec Mauller 9-3 Jacques MD Wilner 9-7 O'Toole MD Negron 9-11 Mocco dec Valencia 9-14 Hawks/Harmon dec Montalvo 9-17 Elam dec Norfleet 9-20 Upset! Schultz dec Elam 12-20 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaTiger Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Idaho said: This will be a great dual Courtney or Figs dec Surtain 3-0 McGee dec Brown 6-0 Hart dec Vasquez 6-3 Parco dec Mauller 9-3 Jacques MD Wilner 9-7 O'Toole MD Negron 9-11 Mocco dec Valencia 9-14 Hawks/Harmon dec Montalvo 9-17 Elam dec Norfleet 9-20 Upset! Schultz dec Elam 12-20 Good insight. I think Elam finally makes it to the podium, but Schultz is a monster and I think Elam falls short on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaTiger Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Is this dual on flo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 8 hours ago, TampaTiger said: Is this dual on flo? https://pac-12.com/live?networks=P12I 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 9 hours ago, TampaTiger said: Good insight. I think Elam finally makes it to the podium, but Schultz is a monster and I think Elam falls short on this one. Agree.... Schultz is tough to score on with his size and leverage as a greco wrestler. I just hope we see full lineups for the dual. Like every fan I want to see these matches happen. 3 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Idaho said: Agree.... Schultz is tough to score on with his size and leverage as a greco wrestler. I just hope we see full lineups for the dual. Like every fan I want to see these matches happen. I'll go out on a limb and say we won't see the full expected starting lineups. Meet you over in Board Bets? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjd Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, ionel said: I'll go out on a limb and say we won't see the full expected starting lineups. Meet you over in Board Bets? Safe bet with Teamer out. DK why Norfleet and Courtney didnt wrestle last week. Parco and Fagen both inj defaulted at Journeymen. Devil fan here but I can only see them winning a couple matches with a depleted lineup. Hell at full strength they werent going to win the dual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Mizzou Fan said: Upset! Elam dec Schultz Thoughts? Lineup differences? Other opinions? Edited November 16, 2022 by KCMO2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, wjd said: Safe bet with Teamer out. DK why Norfleet and Courtney didnt wrestle last week. Parco and Fagen both inj defaulted at Journeymen. Devil fan here but I can only see them winning a couple matches with a depleted lineup. Hell at full strength they werent going to win the dual. Teemer is out for the season, isn't he? Can't call him an expected starter for this season at all, then. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 49 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Teemer is out for the season, isn't he? Can't call him an expected starter for this season at all, then. Some are saying season... some are saying indefinitely... I don't expect him as a starter either. I think if his injury goes into Feb we will not see him if he wants to get a medical year for 2023-24. If he doesn't want another year maybe he gives it a go at the end. 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerfan Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I don’t see this dual listed on Pac-12 network. Trying to stream thru Fubo subscription. Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerfan Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I think I found it. They sure don’t make it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaTiger Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tigerfan said: I think I found it. They sure don’t make it easy. It's it free? I was looking as well but It looked love you have to have a subscription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanders Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, Tigerfan said: I think I found it. They sure don’t make it easy. Is it a subscription service or can we watch for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanders Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, TampaTiger said: It's it free? I was looking as well but It looked love you have to have a subscription. Beat me to it. Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) never mind Edited November 17, 2022 by Thumper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 hours ago, TampaTiger said: It's it free? I was looking as well but It looked love you have to have a subscription. 2 hours ago, flanders said: Is it a subscription service or can we watch for free? Believe there have been times in the past where you could get the P12 video thru the ASU schedule at match time for free, but it seems you never know till the match actually starts. If any actually know please post on this thread. Should be a great meet but I'm not signing up for P12n just to see it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Is this available on the Pac12 network, or just online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, VakAttack said: Is this available on the Pac12 network, or just online? Yes Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanders Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 hours ago, ionel said: Believe there have been times in the past where you could get the P12 video thru the ASU schedule at match time for free, but it seems you never know till the match actually starts. If any actually know please post on this thread. Should be a great meet but I'm not signing up for P12n just to see it. According to this, there's a link and it says, "free to watch". https://mutigers.com/news/2022/11/16/no-3-wrestling-heads-to-tempe-ariz-to-dual-with-no-5-arizona-state.aspx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanders Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 11/15/2022 at 3:39 PM, Mizzou Fan said: Projecting Mizzou wins assuming they have a full Or close to full) lineup. Rocky Elam hasn't wrestled yet. Hart was out during this past weekend's tourn. due to illness. Colton Hawks beat Sean Harmon in Saturday's tourn finals. (Do we have a new starter at 184?) Courtney dec Surtain McGee dec Brown Hart dec Vasquez Mauller dec Parco Jacques maj dec Wilner O'Toole pin Negron Mocco maj dec Valencia Montalvo dec Hawks/Harmon Elam dec Norfleet Upset! Elam dec Schultz Thoughts? Lineup differences? Other opinions? I like your picks except for Elam over Schultz. He's been pretty underwhelming so far and I wouldn't expect that to change tonight. Also, someone will have a headscratching loss for Mizzou. Maybe Jacques? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizzou Fan Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 I read earlier today that both Hart and Rocky Elam will be in the line-up tonight. Hoping AZ State has full line-up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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