Plasmodium Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) Weird with this guy. I always feel like he is trying to win by attrition in the courts. It's like he doesn't understand time and hangs out with too many gangstas. For example, Edited June 9, 2023 by Plasmodium Uri issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 How now, traitor cows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Good lord, there are actual tapes. https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/09/politics/trump-tape-didnt-declassify-secret-information/index.html Game. Over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Oh my goodness. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-biden-allegedly-paid-dollar5-million-by-burisma-executive-in-pay-for-play-bribery-scheme-fbi-document-reveals/ar-AA1cjhZ2 Joe Biden Allegedly Paid $5 Million by Burisma Executive in 'Pay-for-Play' Bribery Scheme, FBI Document Reveals President Joe Biden was reportedly paid a whopping $5 million by an executive from the Ukrainian natural gas firm Burisma Holdings — in which his embattled son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board, RadarOnline.com has learned. The revelation came on Thursday, with sources telling Fox News Digital that a confidential human source told the FBI about the alleged exchange. The FD-1023 form was dated June 30, 2020, and reportedly outlined the FBI's interview with a "highly credible" source who detailed several meetings and conversations the tipster allegedly had with a top Burisma executive over many years, beginning in 2015 when Biden was Vice President. According to Fox News Digital, the form included allegations of a criminal "pay-for-play" bribery scheme between Biden and a foreign national that influenced U.S. policy decisions. It's important to note that an FD-1023 form is a routine document used by the FBI to record unverified information given to agents by confidential sources. The Burisma executive allegedly asked the confidential source about gaining the rights to U.S. oil and how to get involved with a U.S. oil company. The executive also reportedly discussed Hunter's role on the board, revealing the now first son was "dumb" when asked by the source why they needed his or her advice if they had connections to Biden's son. The Burisma executive allegedly told the source that Burisma was to "pay the Bidens" because Burisma was being investigated by Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin. When the confidential source suggested the Burisma "pay the Bidens $50,000 each," the Burisma executive allegedly responded that the amount was "$5 million," "not $50,000." An insider told the outlet that the $5 million payments seemed to be a reference to a "retainer" that Burisma planned to pay the Bidens. Sources revealed they believed the payments to Joe and Hunter were paid "through so many different bank accounts" that investigators wouldn't be able "unravel this for at least 10 years," based on conversations with the Burisma executive. The FD-1023 form allegedly referred to "the Big Guy," which is believed to be Joe. The confidential source revealed the Burisma executive told the insider he "didn’t pay the Big Guy directly." President Biden addressed the allegations on Thursday, calling it "a bunch of malarkey." Please note that Biden "joked" at first by asking "Where's the money?" and then stating it is "a bunch of malarkey." https://time.com/6286027/biden-calls-bribery-accusations-malarkey/ Asked for his response to the bribery allegation, Biden quipped, “Where’s the money? I’m joking. It’s a bunch of malarkey.” Interesting that he "joked" about where the money was. Part of the issue here is the network of LLCs the Bidens created. Where's the money? Perhaps the web of LLCs played some part in this, you think? His first reaction was to ask "Where's the money?" as if he is daring anyone to find the money that has been well hidden. Weird. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-oversight-republican-report-biden-family-accusations/ After reviewing thousands of records subpoenaed from four banks, the House Oversight Committee said in an interim report that some Biden family members, associates and their companies received more than $10 million from foreign entities, including payments made during and after President Joe Biden's vice presidency. But the White House countered that GOP investigators could not point to a "single Joe Biden policy" that was unduly influenced. The 36-page interim GOP report, released by Oversight Committee chair James Comer, a Kentucky Republican, accused some Biden family members and associates of using a "complicated network" of more than 20 companies, mostly LLCs formed when Mr. Biden was vice president, and used "incremental payments over time" to "conceal large financial transactions." Notice the bolded statement is not a denial. Very clearly it is not a denial that this occurred. Oh, yeah, interesting that this is not really newsworthy and that the indictment of Trump came out just in time to overshadow everyone's attention. We are witnessing what is very clearly an uneven use of the justice process. One that depends on who you are, not what you have done. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Oh my goodness. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-biden-allegedly-paid-dollar5-million-by-burisma-executive-in-pay-for-play-bribery-scheme-fbi-document-reveals/ar-AA1cjhZ2 Joe Biden Allegedly Paid $5 Million by Burisma Executive in 'Pay-for-Play' Bribery Scheme, FBI Document Reveals President Joe Biden was reportedly paid a whopping $5 million by an executive from the Ukrainian natural gas firm Burisma Holdings — in which his embattled son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board, RadarOnline.com has learned. The revelation came on Thursday, with sources telling Fox News Digital that a confidential human source told the FBI about the alleged exchange. The FD-1023 form was dated June 30, 2020, and reportedly outlined the FBI's interview with a "highly credible" source who detailed several meetings and conversations the tipster allegedly had with a top Burisma executive over many years, beginning in 2015 when Biden was Vice President. According to Fox News Digital, the form included allegations of a criminal "pay-for-play" bribery scheme between Biden and a foreign national that influenced U.S. policy decisions. It's important to note that an FD-1023 form is a routine document used by the FBI to record unverified information given to agents by confidential sources. The Burisma executive allegedly asked the confidential source about gaining the rights to U.S. oil and how to get involved with a U.S. oil company. The executive also reportedly discussed Hunter's role on the board, revealing the now first son was "dumb" when asked by the source why they needed his or her advice if they had connections to Biden's son. The Burisma executive allegedly told the source that Burisma was to "pay the Bidens" because Burisma was being investigated by Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin. When the confidential source suggested the Burisma "pay the Bidens $50,000 each," the Burisma executive allegedly responded that the amount was "$5 million," "not $50,000." An insider told the outlet that the $5 million payments seemed to be a reference to a "retainer" that Burisma planned to pay the Bidens. Sources revealed they believed the payments to Joe and Hunter were paid "through so many different bank accounts" that investigators wouldn't be able "unravel this for at least 10 years," based on conversations with the Burisma executive. The FD-1023 form allegedly referred to "the Big Guy," which is believed to be Joe. The confidential source revealed the Burisma executive told the insider he "didn’t pay the Big Guy directly." President Biden addressed the allegations on Thursday, calling it "a bunch of malarkey." Please note that Biden "joked" at first by asking "Where's the money?" and then stating it is "a bunch of malarkey." https://time.com/6286027/biden-calls-bribery-accusations-malarkey/ Asked for his response to the bribery allegation, Biden quipped, “Where’s the money? I’m joking. It’s a bunch of malarkey.” Interesting that he "joked" about where the money was. Part of the issue here is the network of LLCs the Bidens created. Where's the money? Perhaps the web of LLCs played some part in this, you think? His first reaction was to ask "Where's the money?" as if he is daring anyone to find the money that has been well hidden. Weird. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-oversight-republican-report-biden-family-accusations/ After reviewing thousands of records subpoenaed from four banks, the House Oversight Committee said in an interim report that some Biden family members, associates and their companies received more than $10 million from foreign entities, including payments made during and after President Joe Biden's vice presidency. But the White House countered that GOP investigators could not point to a "single Joe Biden policy" that was unduly influenced. The 36-page interim GOP report, released by Oversight Committee chair James Comer, a Kentucky Republican, accused some Biden family members and associates of using a "complicated network" of more than 20 companies, mostly LLCs formed when Mr. Biden was vice president, and used "incremental payments over time" to "conceal large financial transactions." Notice the bolded statement is not a denial. Very clearly it is not a denial that this occurred. Oh, yeah, interesting that this is not really newsworthy and that the indictment of Trump came out just in time to overshadow everyone's attention. We are witnessing what is very clearly an uneven use of the justice process. One that depends on who you are, not what you have done. mspart What is the crime that Biden committed here?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Trump's lackey has been indicted on related charges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, mspart said: the indictment of Trump came out just in time to overshadow everyone's attention. Didn't Trump break the news ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Le duke said: What is the crime that Biden committed here? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He did nothing illegal. Edited June 9, 2023 by Plasmodium Better word 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) Surely, there must exist some jurisdiction that a promising and aggressive prosecutor is ready and willing to take these Burisma allegations to a grand jury? Surely... :crickets.wav: Edited June 9, 2023 by Mike Parrish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 I’m still waiting for a credible (not paid by Kash Patel) witness to come forward against Biden. A credible witness who didn’t take cash payments after being suspected after ab attempt to violently overthrow the government, that is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Le duke said: I’m still waiting for a credible (not paid by Kash Patel) witness to come forward against Biden. A credible witness who didn’t take cash payments after being suspected after ab attempt to violently overthrow the government, that is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No such thing as Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 His defense lawyers just resigned. Damn. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 *I have used this word too much* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 This is why I have not checked any box on the president section of a ballot in a few elections now. Our choices are going to be a guy who can’t speak to the American people because he can’t speak vs a guy who can’t speak to the American public because he’s a criminal in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 The reason no prosecutors have charged Biden with bribery and corruption is the same reason no prosecutors have charged Putin with bribery and corruption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Offthemat said: The reason no prosecutors have charged Biden with bribery and corruption is the same reason no prosecutors have charged Putin with bribery and corruption. anyone who can't see this has clearly fallen for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 The indictment has been unsealed. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.3.0.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 The reason no prosecutors have charged Biden with bribery and corruption is the same reason no prosecutors have charged Putin with bribery and corruption. If the DOJ is so easily politicized by whoever is in charge, as alleged above, how come no one charged Biden, Hillary, etc., during the Trump administration?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 The indictment has been unsealed. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.3.0.pdfThey had TS//RD-CNWDI information on the US nuclear programs. Holy crap.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Le duke said: They had TS/SCI information on the US nuclear programs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's just the tip of the iceberg. Pages 28-33 have a full inventory. It's mindbendingly bad. Edited June 9, 2023 by Mike Parrish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Le duke said: If the DOJ is so easily politicized by whoever is in charge, as alleged above, how come no one charged Biden, Hillary, etc., during the Trump administration? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That is a great question that should be asked...answer = they ALL should have been charged just like Trump. And they "why" for them not being charged, please don't be disingenuous, you know for a fact that justice is applied unequally. What absolutely sucks about all this is the next time a R is in control of the justice department/FBI it will be used against the D's...it will become a vicious circle. To not see that is putting your partisan glasses on and then burying your head in the sand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 I misspoke. It’s TS//RD-CNWDI. Here’s the deal, folks. He didn’t declassify that stuff. Full stop. We can quibble about the S//REL docs on Hillary’s server all we want; the two are in different universes.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 In hiliary’s case, Trump told the DOJ not to pursue her; he tried to get Zelensky to pursue what the FBIPAC and the CIAPAC wouldn’t do, the records were in Ukraine, and got impeached for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bigbrog said: That is a great question that should be asked...answer = they ALL should have been charged just like Trump. And they "why" for them not being charged, please don't be disingenuous, you know for a fact that justice is applied unequally. What absolutely sucks about all this is the next time a R is in control of the justice department/FBI it will be used against the D's...it will become a vicious circle. To not see that is putting your partisan glasses on and then burying your head in the sand. An R is currently in charge of the FBI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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