Wrestleknownothing Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Spiral ride is by the new rule stalling. You cannot turn someone or pin them with a spiral ride. Same with a claw ride, side or front headlock... apparently not with your crappy spiral ride, claw ride, side or front headlock, you can't. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyhoyle Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, fishbane said: I wonder if the number of MD and TF will increase by a statistically significant amount with this change. It would seem like the points are being inflated with no adjustment to the MD and NF thresholds. It would be interesting to compare the rate of TF and MD in the 2014-2015 (back when NFs were only 2 or 3 points) to next season with a 3 point takedown and 4 point NFs. They will definitely increase, and that's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, MPhillips said: @Wrestleknownothing You've been summoned. Come on, man, it's the off-season. 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerniePragle Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 31 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: You can't turn someone with a power half if both boots are in though. You eventually have to take 1 or both boots out. Randy Lewis may want a word... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 And Mineo was already working his cowardly "delete when I'm wrong strategy." Someone asked about NF points. He said, no changes to NF points. Claimed it was the only change that didn't pass "No RT without NF." Poster continued "No there was a proposal to bring back 3NF" Minnow: "No. Only thing dealing with NF didn't pass, and that was the RT rule." A couple minutes after Flo published an article Minnow deleted his references regarding "no change to NF" What an expert! Such a squid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 27 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Yep. And what does work to turn mean? This one will take some time I think to get worked out as different refs will see it, and call it, differently. The good news is that no one on this board, HR, or BWI will get worked up about it. I'm confused, what do you mean by "worked out?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 They should have just made the first takedown 3 points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Come on, man, it's the off-season. Live by the sword... Die by the sword... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, billyhoyle said: They will definitely increase, and that's a good thing. I don't think it will work that way. If you make all scoring actions with 2x their former value and rescore all matches you will find that the margin of victory/defeat has doubled. The matches have not changed. It may be that instead of having matches with 0-2 point difference being stallfest with one guy planning to steal a takedown at the end of the match to win/force OT the same thing now commonly happens in matches with a 0-3 point difference. Idealling I'd like to see the number of scoring actions in a match increase not necessarily just points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Live by the spreadsheet... Die by the spreadsheet... ftfy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, ionel said: ftfy Can always count on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: You can't turn someone with a power half if both boots are in though. You eventually have to take 1 or both boots out. The hell you can't, I did it all the time in high school and college. Have you ever actually wrestled? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Can always count on you. I'm here to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestleFan12 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Seems like a 3-point takedown de-values mat wrestling. This rule change is good for takedown artists, and for blowing matches open. Pretty soon this is going to be freestyle with these rule changes...takedowns, and get them back to their feet quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, WrestleFan12 said: Pretty soon this is going to be freestyle with these rule changes. … and it wouldn’t be a minute too soon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Yep. And what does work to turn mean? This one will take some time I think to get worked out as different refs will see it, and call it, differently. The good news is that no one on this board, HR, or BWI will get worked up about it. It’s already the rule in HS… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 What's this do to Iowa style? Not much I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: And Mineo was already working his cowardly "delete when I'm wrong strategy." Someone asked about NF points. He said, no changes to NF points. Claimed it was the only change that didn't pass "No RT without NF." Poster continued "No there was a proposal to bring back 3NF" Minnow: "No. Only thing dealing with NF didn't pass, and that was the RT rule." A couple minutes after Flo published an article Minnow deleted his references regarding "no change to NF" What an expert! Such a squid. This one was a bit of an eye roll…he’s describing the same situation as can happen now… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, 1032004 said: This one was a bit of an eye roll…he’s describing the same situation as can happen now… Even his follow up scenario is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 3 hours ago, 1032004 said: It’s already the rule in HS… Do you know if they are copying the high school rule or doing their own version? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Double boots in with a lazy power half... What's the call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 What's this do to Iowa style? Not much I reckon. Have to score a TD to get 2 (or 3) points. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 I'm all for change. Seems that forward can be better. Staying still can't. Is it good or bad? meh. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formally140 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 5 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: I'm all for change. Seems that forward can be better. Staying still can't. Is it good or bad? meh. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 10 hours ago, 1032004 said: This one was a bit of an eye roll…he’s describing the same situation as can happen now… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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