BaldAt23 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 There will be a 3 point takedown rule now. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 All of the rules passed except the riding time/nearfall one. This is complete bullshit. Just as we've cemented ourselves at the highest level Internationally we go and decide that the rules need to be changed further from the International style? Complete bullshit. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Great news for Penn State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 56 minutes ago, BaldAt23 said: There will be a 3 point takedown rule now. Thoughts? My goal till beginning of season is once a week for 15 minutes I shall practice jumping from my seat, holding up 3 fingers and yelling THREEEEE!! I want to be ready and not look like an idiot yelling out TWOOO! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyhoyle Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: All of the rules passed except the riding time/nearfall one. This is complete bullshit. Just as we've cemented ourselves at the highest level Internationally we go and decide that the rules need to be changed further from the International style? Complete bullshit. It's closer to the international style because of the 1 pt escape. So the net value of a takedown is 2 points, assuming you can't ride. the 2-1 ratio of takedown to escape was always stupid and overvalued the ability to score near the end of a period. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formally140 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Riding time was the rule change that mattered. So not doing it will ensure that riding is still boring.. so eh I have really mixed feelings on the 3 pt takedown. The people whining about the escape math.. finish a period on top what were the other rules officially passec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Now kids will just want to be Steph Curry out here raining threes 1 1 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Copied from another site. Didn't see the announcement. Are these the onus of the changes? "3 Point TD is in for next season, as well as no more reaction time TD. Sequences are now being challenged, instead of a single move. First MFF of tournament will now be an L on the wrestlers record, unless it follows an injury default the previous match. Near Fall will be worth 2,3,4 next season based on 2,3,4 swipes. Top guy now has to work for near fall, he can no longer just ride and try and breakdown their opponent. The mandatory 5 sec stall call on the top guy that grasps the bottom guys ankle is now for all attempts on the ankle (aka hooking the ankle ride). No more facial hair rule." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 The “all situations where the wrestler grasps the ankle “ will help at least stop one aspect of top stalling 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 "Top guy now has to work for near fall, he can no longer just ride and try and breakdown their opponent." Curious how this one will be interpreted and applied in matches. Will top be more like high school where you only get hit if you are stall riding and they let you ride for extended periods of time if you are working OR you can only work for a while but if you can't score you will get dinged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Let’s go!! I’ve been a proponent for the 3 to 1 ratio for TD vs Escape. Glad to see. Top guy must work for fall / turn is good. Hated the stall rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hillbilly Jim said: "Top guy now has to work for near fall, he can no longer just ride and try and breakdown their opponent." Curious how this one will be interpreted and applied in matches. Will top be more like high school where you only get hit if you are stall riding and they let you ride for extended periods of time if you are working OR you can only work for a while but if you can't score you will get dinged? So by rule, double boots has to be stalling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: So by rule, double boots has to be stalling... Not with a power half. That ankle ride though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 52 minutes ago, ionel said: My goal till beginning of season is once a week for 15 minutes I shall practice jumping from my seat, holding up 3 fingers and yelling THREEEEE!! I want to be ready and not look like an idiot yelling out TWOOO! I was able to hack into @ionel's security camera and acquire footage of this week's practice session. 2 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Not with a power half. That ankle ride though... You can't turn someone with a power half if both boots are in though. You eventually have to take 1 or both boots out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Copied from another site. Didn't see the announcement. Are these the onus of the changes? "3 Point TD is in for next season, as well as no more reaction time TD. Sequences are now being challenged, instead of a single move. First MFF of tournament will now be an L on the wrestlers record, unless it follows an injury default the previous match. Near Fall will be worth 2,3,4 next season based on 2,3,4 swipes. Top guy now has to work for near fall, he can no longer just ride and try and breakdown their opponent. The mandatory 5 sec stall call on the top guy that grasps the bottom guys ankle is now for all attempts on the ankle (aka hooking the ankle ride). No more facial hair rule." Does hook = grasp? There is no clarity in the NCAA announcement. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Just now, Wrestleknownothing said: Does hook = grasp? There is no clarity in the NCAA announcement. Therein lies the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Just now, MPhillips said: Therein lies the question. Yep. And what does work to turn mean? This one will take some time I think to get worked out as different refs will see it, and call it, differently. The good news is that no one on this board, HR, or BWI will get worked up about it. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: You can't turn someone with a power half if both boots are in though. But you can, "work for it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said: no one on this board, HR, or BWI will get worked up about it. I'm already over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I wonder if the number of MD and TF will increase by a statistically significant amount with this change. It would seem like the points are being inflated with no adjustment to the MD and NF thresholds. It would be interesting to compare the rate of TF and MD in the 2014-2015 (back when NFs were only 2 or 3 points) to next season with a 3 point takedown and 4 point NFs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Just now, fishbane said: It would be interesting to compare the rate of TF and MD in the 2014-2015 (back when NFs were only 2 or 3 points) to next season with a 3 point takedown and 4 point NFs. @Wrestleknownothing You've been summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Spiral ride is by the new rule stalling. You cannot turn someone or pin them with a spiral ride. Same with a claw ride, side or front headlock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Spiral ride is by the new rule stalling. You cannot turn someone or pin them with a spiral ride. Same with a claw ride, side or front headlock... Side headlock was already a stall call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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