Hillbilly Jim Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 I am a college wrestling fan--more than a casual fan, but perhaps not as expert/hardcore as the folks on here. My question(s) are: 1) with all the transfers and commitment flips, etc., where is the best place to check out roster lists and starter projections? 2) I was pointed to WrestleStat, but was curious whether folks think those projections are solid and kept up to date well? 3) I mostly follow the Big 10 on BTN, so similar to the thread asking expert fans of their teams to preview their season, I would love to see expert Big 10 fans provide lineup projections? Intermat and Flo have done a decent job of allowing me to follow which Big Ten wrestlers have transferred out or transferred in and the commitment lists are easy to follow--but I'd like to see expert fans' thoughts on how all this movement shakes out in the lineup predictions/projections--knowing of course the ultimate outcome will be shaped by the competition in the room this fall......  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 WrestleStat is usually pretty damn good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hillbilly Jim said: I am a college wrestling fan--more than a casual fan, but perhaps not as expert/hardcore as the folks on here. My question(s) are: 1) with all the transfers and commitment flips, etc., where is the best place to check out roster lists and starter projections? 2) I was pointed to WrestleStat, but was curious whether folks think those projections are solid and kept up to date well? 3) I mostly follow the Big 10 on BTN, so similar to the thread asking expert fans of their teams to preview their season, I would love to see expert Big 10 fans provide lineup projections? Intermat and Flo have done a decent job of allowing me to follow which Big Ten wrestlers have transferred out or transferred in and the commitment lists are easy to follow--but I'd like to see expert fans' thoughts on how all this movement shakes out in the lineup predictions/projections--knowing of course the ultimate outcome will be shaped by the competition in the room this fall......  While you will have to tweak your expectations a bit on the word 'expert' a decent thread to check out might be: A few of our resident Keyboard Warriors chime in in a more-or-less civil manner there. 2 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted June 1, 2023 Author Share Posted June 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, nhs67 said: While you will have to tweak your expectations a bit on the word 'expert' a decent thread to check out might be: A few of our resident Keyboard Warriors chime in in a more-or-less civil manner there. OK that got me more than half of the teams--still interested to see the rest of them which would be: Purdue Nebraska Indiana Northwestern Rutgers Maryland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hillbilly Jim said: OK that got me more than half of the teams--still interested to see the rest of them which would be: Purdue Nebraska Indiana Northwestern Rutgers Maryland some recent discussion on Maryland   2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Hillbilly Jim said: OK that got me more than half of the teams--still interested to see the rest of them which would be: Purdue Nebraska Indiana Northwestern Rutgers Maryland Per @flyingcement in... 125: Dean Peterson 133: Dylan Shawver 141: Mitch Moore / Olivieri RS 149: Jacob Butler 157: Tony White / Clark RS 165: Luke Gayer 174: Jackson Turley 184: Brian Soldano 197: Jon Poznanski 285: Yaraslau Slavikouski  1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 minute ago, nhs67 said: Per @flyingcement in... 125: Dean Peterson 133: Dylan Shawver 141: Mitch Moore / Olivieri RS 149: Jacob Butler 157: Tony White / Clark RS 165: Luke Gayer 174: Jackson Turley 184: Brian Soldano 197: Jon Poznanski 285: Yaraslau Slavikouski  This was my guess but you could also see Connor O'Neill replace Gayer at 65 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted June 1, 2023 Author Share Posted June 1, 2023 OK--getting closer. Any and all analysis is appreciated. Still got 4 lineup breakdowns to go: Purdue Nebraska Indiana Northwestern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 I'll take a crack at Purdue 125: Matt Ramos 133: Jacob Macatangay 141: Dustin Norris 149: Marcos Polanco 157: Kade Law 165: Stoney Buell 174: James Rowley 184: Joey Milano 197: Hayden Flipovich (or Thomas Penola if he returns) 285: Hayden Copass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, flyingcement said: I'll take a crack at Purdue 125: Matt Ramos 133: Jacob Macatangay 141: Dustin Norris 149: Marcos Polanco 157: Kade Law 165: Stoney Buell 174: James Rowley 184: Joey Milano 197: Hayden Flipovich (or Thomas Penola if he returns) 285: Hayden Copass Joey Blaze might be a think at 165. I think Buell holds him off and he redshirts, though. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 How about we hear from @Husker_Du on the Huskers? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: Joey Blaze might be a think at 165. I think Buell holds him off and he redshirts, though. That is the nice little nugget I am looking for from the team experts.  I would have guessed Blaze to beat Stoney.  Either way—those are good problems to have with those two battling in the room for years to come. Nice young group forming there for Purdue—Norris, Clark, Blaze, Buell, Rowley, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 16 hours ago, nhs67 said: How about we hear from @Husker_Du on the Huskers? Correct me if I am wrong, but it appears Nebraska is pretty straightforward just looking at WrestleStat. Maybe the VanDee kid from PA can make it interesting at 133? That leaves just Indiana and Northwestern and I know that they have question marks. Don't leave me hanging gents.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 14 hours ago, Hillbilly Jim said: Correct me if I am wrong, but it appears Nebraska is pretty straightforward just looking at WrestleStat. Maybe the VanDee kid from PA can make it interesting at 133? That leaves just Indiana and Northwestern and I know that they have question marks. Don't leave me hanging gents.... Check out indianamat.com 's college forum for Indiana and Purdue analysis. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/3/2023 at 6:36 AM, Wrestleknownothing said: Check out indianamat.com 's college forum for Indiana and Purdue analysis. And all the top Iran news. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/3/2023 at 3:36 AM, Wrestleknownothing said: Check out indianamat.com 's college forum for Indiana and Purdue analysis. As you mention it, I checked and there is a posted there saying that Joey Milano may not be going to Purdue after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretty_rob Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/1/2023 at 12:05 PM, Hillbilly Jim said: I am a college wrestling fan--more than a casual fan, but perhaps not as expert/hardcore as the folks on here. My question(s) are: 1) with all the transfers and commitment flips, etc., where is the best place to check out roster lists and starter projections? 2) I was pointed to WrestleStat, but was curious whether folks think those projections are solid and kept up to date well? 3) I mostly follow the Big 10 on BTN, so similar to the thread asking expert fans of their teams to preview their season, I would love to see expert Big 10 fans provide lineup projections? Intermat and Flo have done a decent job of allowing me to follow which Big Ten wrestlers have transferred out or transferred in and the commitment lists are easy to follow--but I'd like to see expert fans' thoughts on how all this movement shakes out in the lineup predictions/projections--knowing of course the ultimate outcome will be shaped by the competition in the room this fall......  Wrestlestat updates high profile transfers the day of. Some of the projected scoring I don’t agree with because they have incoming freshmen rated too low. by mid-season that’s usually cleared up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Wrestlestat is the go to. Period. For rosters, RS's, stats and such They aren't a ranking site and shouldn't be treated as one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Kong Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Northwestern, sadly, will be bad to terrible (losing three AA's will do that. 125 Patrick Adams, the kid who transferred from Buffalo (does not look like a competitive B10 wrestler). 133 who knows, no one on the roster fits 141 Tal-Shahar 149 ?? maybe Trevor Chumbley drops down 157 Maxx Mayfield if Chumbley drops, or Vandenbush 165 Mayfield or David Ferrante 174 Troy Fisher or Joe Martin 184 Fisher or Martin 197 Evan Bates HWT Unknown freshman Dirk Morley ...that was depressing.  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretty_rob Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Major Kong said: Northwestern, sadly, will be bad to terrible (losing three AA's will do that. 125 Patrick Adams, the kid who transferred from Buffalo (does not look like a competitive B10 wrestler). 133 who knows, no one on the roster fits 141 Tal-Shahar 149 ?? maybe Trevor Chumbley drops down 157 Maxx Mayfield if Chumbley drops, or Vandenbush 165 Mayfield or David Ferrante 174 Troy Fisher or Joe Martin 184 Fisher or Martin 197 Evan Bates HWT Unknown freshman Dirk Morley ...that was depressing.  Can Storniolo squeeze a couple AA’s outta that lineup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, MPhillips said: Wrestlestat is the go to. Period. For rosters, RS's, stats and such They aren't a ranking site and shouldn't be treated as one. Amen. Wrestlestat is a precious resource. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Kong Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, pretty_rob said: Can Storniolo squeeze a couple AA’s outta that lineup? Chumbley has a decent shot, Tal-Shahar and Fisher are live longshots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted June 5, 2023 Author Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Amen. Wrestlestat is a precious resource. I understand that--but I love to hear any deeper insights from teams' hardcore fans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted June 5, 2023 Author Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Major Kong said: Northwestern, sadly, will be bad to terrible (losing three AA's will do that. 125 Patrick Adams, the kid who transferred from Buffalo (does not look like a competitive B10 wrestler). 133 who knows, no one on the roster fits 141 Tal-Shahar 149 ?? maybe Trevor Chumbley drops down 157 Maxx Mayfield if Chumbley drops, or Vandenbush 165 Mayfield or David Ferrante 174 Troy Fisher or Joe Martin 184 Fisher or Martin 197 Evan Bates HWT Unknown freshman Dirk Morley ...that was depressing.  OUCH. They did get a nice recruit from 2024 class in Dillion Johnson though.... Edited June 5, 2023 by Hillbilly Jim added comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 hours ago, pretty_rob said: Can Storniolo squeeze a couple AA’s outta that lineup? Tal-Shahar Has 7 or 8 wins over AAs the past 2 seasons I’d say he’s got a shot and Chumbley will be in the R12 at worst 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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