TwoPointsTakeDown84 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Established areas: Central Valley, California Pittsburgh, PA Lehigh Valley, PA Cleveland, OH North Jersey, Jersey Chicago Suburbs, IL Where is the next hot bed of talent? Where should there be more/better coaching to help build up the area? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, TwoPointsTakeDown84 said: Established areas: Central Valley, California Pittsburgh, PA Lehigh Valley, PA Cleveland, OH North Jersey, Jersey Chicago Suburbs, IL Where is the next hot bed of talent? Where should there be more/better coaching to help build up the area? Sandy Springs, GA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 CBUS OH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Carbondale, IL is doing alright. Middle of nowhere southern Illinois - 2 hours south of St. Louis, 3 hours north of Nashville, 6 hours south of Chicago. Cam Caffey, Zane Richards, Alli Ragan off the top of my head. Not too shabby for a town of 20,000. 4 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitleIX is ripe for reform Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) Allen (near Dallas), Texas perhaps? Bo Nickal went to Allen H.S. They're a perennial team champ, too... If only Texas had D1 wrestling again. It's inching its way back in that direction though (knock on wood): http://www.facebook.com/TexasCollegiateWrestling Edited May 23, 2023 by TitleIX is ripe for reform 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 48 minutes ago, TitleIX is ripe for reform said: Allen (near Dallas), Texas perhaps? Bo Nickal went to Allen H.S. They're a perennial team champ, too... If only Texas had D1 wrestling again. It's inching its way back in that direction though (knock on wood): http://www.facebook.com/TexasCollegiateWrestling I'm really surprised that UNT hasn't produced at least a men's team given the explosive growth of that athletic program. It would fit in well in Denton. i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitleIX is ripe for reform Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) U. of North Texas (Denton) does have a club: https://ncwa.net/teams/unt Meanwhile: https://www.facebook.com/NorthTexasWrestling Former NCAA champion (U. of Oklahoma) Andrew Metzger has been actively involved with the team, too. Edited May 23, 2023 by TitleIX is ripe for reform 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitleIX is ripe for reform Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 If one looks for "Texas" at the top of the 3 columns here (the one below is for women), one can see seeds for optimism: http://www.ncwa.net/teams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 58 minutes ago, TitleIX is ripe for reform said: U. of North Texas (Denton) does have a club: https://ncwa.net/teams/unt Meanwhile: https://www.facebook.com/NorthTexasWrestling Former NCAA champion (U. of Oklahoma) Andrew Metzger has been actively involved with the team, too. Right but club does not equal funded NCAA program unfortunately. 1 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formally140 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 City of Chicago is potentially on a trajectory to improve. Depends on how a few things shake out. We’ll see Won’t get to the suburbs level but much better. Hopefully. Columbus Oh has rapidly improved. GA won’t take the next step until they build more depth. Yeah it’s nice when Archer and Colon’s Hill enjoy their 5 years of open enrollment. But they need more “programs” to build depth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm Up Champ Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Would Arizona/Valiant Prep be an answer to your question? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitleIX is ripe for reform Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) bnwtwg: Your point about "club" status is well taken. In response I mention that I've been told that Liberty University's transition from NCAA D1(?) to NCWA status has been relatively painless, but I'm not sure how their budget was affected. They even kept the same head coach (Jessie Castro, I seem to recall). Meanwhile, I can't help but learn from ODU wrestling's D1 example. Students were having to foot the bill for a team that few even noticed, other than the student activities fee deduction. Now the Monarchs don't even have a club program left. Maybe clubs are the way to go on the frontier. That said, I wish every school could afford to have a program as fine as the ODU Monarchs traditionally were. I was their fan and I even helped encourage others to go wrestle for 'em. Their program's discontinuation saddened me considerably. But maybe UNT wrestling has already adequately braced itself from a similar fate by being a club. Food for thought. Edited May 23, 2023 by TitleIX is ripe for reform 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, TitleIX is ripe for reform said: bnwtwg: Your point about "club" status is well taken. In response I mention that I've been told that Liberty University's transition from NCAA D1(?) to NCWA status has been relatively painless, but I'm not sure how their budget was affected. They even kept the same head coach (Jessie Castro, I seem to recall). Meanwhile, I can't help but learn from ODU wrestling's D1 example. Students were having to foot the bill for a team that few even noticed, other than the student activities fee deduction. Now the Monarchs don't even have a club program left. Maybe clubs are the way to go on the frontier. That said, I wish every school could afford to have a program as fine as the ODU Monarchs traditionally were. I was their fan and I even helped encourage others to go wrestle for 'em. Their program's discontinuation saddened me considerably. But maybe UNT wrestling has already adequately braced itself from a similar fate by being a club. Food for thought. ODU experienced the same quick but still painful death of my alma mater. Brutal example and thank you for reminding me to waste an email to the current AD of both institutions. Liberty I cannot morally or ethically support. UNT has hope. Denton, TX is an oasis, a bastion of light in a plight of darkness. I am rooting for the UNT club. I used to travel to DFW frequently and if the opportunity comes up again I will try to observe the room and extend some financial support. 1 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, Formally140 said: Columbus Oh has rapidly improved. 2023 2. Camden McDanel Teays Valley 190, Nebraska ( I took some liberties here. Close enough.) 4. Dylan Russo Olentangy Liberty 215, Oklahoma 5. Dylan Newsome Bishop Hartley 175, Oklahoma 13. David McClelland Columbus DeSales 138, Clarion 2024 1. Omar Ayoub Dublin Coffman 138, Nebraska 2. Ty Wilson Dublin Scioto 144, Penn 4. Max Shulaw Columbus DeSales 126, Virginia 5. Ethan Birden Dublin Coffman 157, Ohio State 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitleIX is ripe for reform Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: ODU experienced the same quick but still painful death of my alma mater. Brutal example and thank you for reminding me to waste an email to the current AD of both institutions. Liberty I cannot morally or ethically support. UNT has hope. Denton, TX is an oasis, a bastion of light in a plight of darkness. I am rooting for the UNT club. I used to travel to DFW frequently and if the opportunity comes up again I will try to observe the room and extend some financial support. U.T. @ Arlington has a club program, too. There are other programs as well (including in Houston). They had considerable momentum heading into the pandemic. Since then, seemingly not nearly as much. What's your wrestling alma mater? I'm sorry it dropped our sport, regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 What about the southern corner of Wisconsin where AWA is from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, flyingcement said: What about the southern corner of Wisconsin where AWA is from? Lake Country / Hartland. Messenbrink Edited May 24, 2023 by MPhillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, flyingcement said: What about the southern corner of Wisconsin where AWA is from? "southern corner" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 8 hours ago, TwoPointsTakeDown84 said: Established areas: Central Valley, California Pittsburgh, PA Lehigh Valley, PA Cleveland, OH North Jersey, Jersey Chicago Suburbs, IL Where is the next hot bed of talent? Where should there be more/better coaching to help build up the area? Central PA (M2) called. They'd like to weigh in on this subject matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Payne County Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, ionel said: Payne County You're always quite difficult. I know, I know, "It's fun." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Just now, MPhillips said: You're always quite difficult. I know, I know, "It's fun." Just trying to channel my inner Penn State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, ionel said: Just trying to channel my inner Penn State. If you can get your wife to throw things at ya and then you try to dodge them... it may help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Tunnel Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 hours ago, bnwtwg said: UNT has hope. Denton, TX is an oasis, a bastion of light in a plight of darkness. I am rooting for the UNT club. I used to travel to DFW frequently and if the opportunity comes up again I will try to observe the room and extend some financial support. UNT is positioned best for starting a program in Texas, because… - it’s not associated with the UT system - proximity to Allen, Martin & other top schools in the state, as well as less than an hour from OK and 5 hrs from the panhandle (lots of tough kids) - cheaper than UT, A&M, Tech and the private schools (SMU, TCU, Rice) - they do have a club team, though Andre Metzger is not exactly someone you want as the face of an NCAA program. Not a bad guy, just off his rocker - it’s a growing school, and Denton Co is exploding as well - Denton ISD does NOT have wrestling in any of their schools, which could hurt (lack of local interest), and no real club presence. It’s not a popular sport in the city of Denton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, MPhillips said: If you can get your wife to throw things at ya and then you try to dodge them... it may help. You really think that isn't already my every day thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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