fishbane Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 https://www.instagram.com/p/CsjpxdpO_YD/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== He'd be the first to win 5 Olympic golds in wrestling should he pull it off. With Rulon also planning a comeback could he retire another legend in their final Olympic games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Forty one when the Olympics come around. US has a forty plus year old in final x don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Forty one when the Olympics come around. US has a forty plus year old in final x don't we? At 77 KG in Greco, yes we do. Former Bronze medalist at that. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, nhs67 said: At 77 KG in Greco, yes we do. Former Bronze medalist at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 when kikiniou showed up in vegas had no clue who this crazy old man was... then he hit my boy payton with one of the nastiest arm throws ever... paid more attention to him last weekend... he made everyone of us old guys feel less masculine... had several convos about how none of us have any excuses anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Either that or he is just a freak of nature. Kudos for him to keep going. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyBadger Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 A vein just burst in Kayaalp He’s got to be up there as one of the best to never win Olympic gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, BuckyBadger said: A vein just burst in Kayaalp He’s got to be up there as one of the best to never win Olympic gold. this is a more than fair point... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joust Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 On 5/24/2023 at 10:47 AM, BuckyBadger said: A vein just burst in Kayaalp He’s got to be up there as one of the best to never win Olympic gold. I think he is well below Rostorotsky, Tomov, among just heavyweights. Charitably he is about as good as Nikola Dinev, but in an era where Russia/Soviets are painfully mediocre at the weight with no signs of life and every other country that used to produce good heavyweights (including the US) went dry. So he has an inflated medal count. What are his best wins in the past 10 years in big competitions? A no score ref decision against Lopez, 19 year old Semenov, Oscar? His euro campaign has been unbelievably weak, his "main rival" on that continent couldn't bother to show up. This "2-1" version of post Tokyo Riza isn't beating a 50 year old Lopez, he injures himself mid match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragu Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I’m taking Mijan to get his fifth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formally140 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 What are his percentage/odds of doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 48 minutes ago, Formally140 said: What are his percentage/odds of doing it? i would put it somewhere north of 99%... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle26 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 On 5/29/2023 at 6:06 PM, LJB said: i would put it somewhere north of 99%... Is that hyperbole or do you really think he is that good at 40+ years old? I don’t follow Greco nearly as close as you, but I wouldn’t give anyone in freestyle that close to a 99% chance of winning the Olympics (including Sadulaev). 99% vs the field is pretty incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, Eagle26 said: Is that hyperbole or do you really think he is that good at 40+ years old? I don’t follow Greco nearly as close as you, but I wouldn’t give anyone in freestyle that close to a 99% chance of winning the Olympics (including Sadulaev). 99% vs the field is pretty incredible he is that good... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 know that those world silver medals also came with a suitcase... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle26 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 58 minutes ago, LJB said: know that those world silver medals also came with a suitcase... Interesting… I thought I remembered one of his silvers being quite controversial (as in being thrown). It wouldn’t surprise me if it was the case for all of them. I can’t imagine what it’s like for him in Cuba, so I don’t blame him one bit. I’ll be rooting for him for sure in 2024. It would be pretty cool to witness such a historical feat! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadkilla Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, Eagle26 said: Interesting… I thought I remembered one of his silvers being quite controversial (as in being thrown). It wouldn’t surprise me if it was the case for all of them. I can’t imagine what it’s like for him in Cuba, so I don’t blame him one bit. I’ll be rooting for him for sure in 2024. It would be pretty cool to witness such a historical feat! Yeah, I imagine he is going through hell being one of the biggest celebrities in Cuban athletic history and living on a tropical island. He also has a brother who is an Olympic Medalist Boxer. Cuban super athletes are treated like royalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Threadkilla said: Yeah, I imagine he is going through hell being one of the biggest celebrities in Cuban athletic history and living on a tropical island. He also has a brother who is an Olympic Medalist Boxer. Cuban super athletes are treated like royalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyhoyle Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, LJB said: know that those world silver medals also came with a suitcase... I remember in 07 worlds team USA being very happy that he did NOT take the money. His win gave USA the team title that year. Edited June 1, 2023 by billyhoyle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyBadger Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 12 hours ago, LJB said: 2011 silver was to Kayaalp and when the tournament was in Istanbul. Hmmm, nothing suspicious there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 I remember in 07 worlds team USA being very happy that he did NOT take the money. His win gave USA the team title that year. Word is the bag to win was bigger than the bag to lose. 2 Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Maybe Rulon can make a difference. If he can make weight. It's an old guys game these days I guess. One other note, he (Lopez) was that good. I don't know that anyone knows that he is that good anymore. Even Karelin fell. We need to get Gable to do both next year. Could Gable beat Schultz in GR? Could he be a medal winner in both FS and GR in the 2024 Olympics? Maybe that would be something worth looking into for him. It would be tough for sure as competitions are close together in time. But what a statement that would make. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Just now, mspart said: Maybe Rulon can make a difference. If he can make weight. It's an old guys game these days I guess. One other note, he (Lopez) was that good. I don't know that anyone knows that he is that good anymore. Even Karelin fell. We need to get Gable to do both next year. Could Gable beat Schultz in GR? Could he be a medal winner in both FS and GR in the 2024 Olympics? Maybe that would be something worth looking into for him. It would be tough for sure as competitions are close together in time. But what a statement that would make. mspart in any greco match reffed by someone who understands greco (i.e.- not 99% of domestic refs who allow shit to happen that would never fly overseas), gable would get smashed schultz... it would be ugly... like picking on a cripple... i shudder to think what international heavies would do to gable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Interesting perspective. I would still like to see it. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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