Animal197 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Any insight into how this will be/ is done? I’m thinking of the scenario for NLWC this year at a few weights. Curious how practice goes with Dake/Nolf or Taylor/Brooks in the same room. Who will coach each one at Final X? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Cody: Nolf and Brooks Varner: Dake and Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa in Taiwan Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Animal197 said: Curious how practice goes with Dake/Nolf or Taylor/Brooks in the same room. I haven't seen any quotes from the actual wrestlers, but I would guess that Dake and Nolf DON'T roll very often in the room. In the recently released video of Taylor, they talk about how Taylor rolls with Dake in the room. I'm not sure how scheduling works for the NLWC, but I imagine it's easy to have guys in the room at different times. I'm sure that Taylor and Brooks have wrestled a lot, but probably not live wrestling so much. Since they are both scheduled for Final X, I imagine that they STOPPED wrestling each other in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 I haven't seen any quotes from the actual wrestlers, but I would guess that Dake and Nolf DON'T roll very often in the room. In the recently released video of Taylor, they talk about how Taylor rolls with Dake in the room. I'm not sure how scheduling works for the NLWC, but I imagine it's easy to have guys in the room at different times. I'm sure that Taylor and Brooks have wrestled a lot, but probably not live wrestling so much. Since they are both scheduled for Final X, I imagine that they STOPPED wrestling each other in the room. Brooks was Taylor’s main training partner prior to and in Tokyo in 2021.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 9 hours ago, Le duke said: Brooks was Taylor’s main training partner prior to and in Tokyo in 2021. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think this is a huge reason Brooks is right up there with his underhook game. He had to simulate the best in the world and got to be pretty damn good. He might even be Hidlay good with that underhook series. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 My first gut reaction was that maybe KD and DT are over at M2 for the next few weeks, but then I got to thinking "Why would the WC head somewhere else?" That makes me think they have different time slots. I think they might even let the wrestlers choose what they focus on, and not actually coach them up. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle26 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 I think this is a huge reason Brooks is right up there with his underhook game. He had to simulate the best in the world and got to be pretty damn good. He might even be Hidlay good with that underhook series.I think this is accurate but begs the question… If Brooks was coached to simulate Taylor’s opponent to help Taylor prepare, are the coaches still doing that with teammates facing each other? Are the NLWC coaches teaching Brooks how to defend against Taylor’s strengths and looking for weaknesses in Taylor’s game (if there are any lol) and trying to teach Brooks how to exploit that? If so, it would seem like a conflict of interests. If not, it’s a disservice to Brooks (and vice versa for Taylor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, Eagle26 said: I think this is accurate but begs the question… If Brooks was coached to simulate Taylor’s opponent to help Taylor prepare, are the coaches still doing that with teammates facing each other? Are the NLWC coaches teaching Brooks how to defend against Taylor’s strengths and looking for weaknesses in Taylor’s game (if there are any lol) and trying to teach Brooks how to exploit that? If so, it would seem like a conflict of interests. If not, it’s a disservice to Brooks (and vice versa for Taylor). Honestly Brooks and Taylor already know each other's strengths and weaknesses intimately. They don't need to coaches to tell them what to work on. I imagine it is more of them telling to coaches what they want to work on. From there they are probably very tight-lipped about individual coaching strategies. NLWC and the guys leading them aren't the Brands Bros. They will be discreet and give them their fair shot. Furthermore I imagine that Brooks will STILL be Taylor's +1 at Worlds this year even after (if) he beats him. It is a different culture than the kill or be killed and it is why I don't think Stalrocci fits the mold anymore. Sure he wins. That is it. His mentality is a very selfish mentality to approach and I think that is why you don't see Nolf or Dake or any other NLWC (or Penn State) guy saying many things good about his character - where they do about each other and everyone else. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Honestly Brooks and Taylor already know each other's strengths and weaknesses intimately. They don't need to coaches to tell them what to work on. I imagine it is more of them telling to coaches what they want to work on. From there they are probably very tight-lipped about individual coaching strategies. NLWC and the guys leading them aren't the Brands Bros. They will be discreet and give them their fair shot. Furthermore I imagine that Brooks will STILL be Taylor's +1 at Worlds this year even after (if) he beats him. It is a different culture than the kill or be killed It didn't look this way with Nickal vs. Taylor... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Just now, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: It didn't look this way with Nickal vs. Taylor... How do you mean? Nickal was already part-time. That is apples and oranges. Both are a fruit, but one deserved the focus there. AB is full-time. Even so, with DT and AB, DT deserves the focus more. He is the defending WC. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 minute ago, nhs67 said: How do you mean? Nickal was already part-time. That is apples and oranges. Both are a fruit, but one deserved the focus there. AB is full-time. Even so, with DT and AB, DT deserves the focus more. He is the defending WC. Before, during, and after the Taylor match, Nickal looked like he was part of someone else's plan that he was not particularly happy with. This followed his very joyful spanking of Zahid. I don't think he was part time. He made OTT finals, but that was as far as he was being allowed to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 https://www.instagram.com/p/CsXsq6LuTV4/?igshid=MmJiY2I4NDBkZg== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 i have been avoiding commenting mostly because of i always have a hard time when people talk about underhooks in the womens style... but... if everything was so harmonious and on the up and up at NLWC, i have to think bo would have been told taylor was too injured to wrestle 86 several years ago... so... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: https://www.instagram.com/p/CsXsq6LuTV4/?igshid=MmJiY2I4NDBkZg== 16 minutes ago, LJB said: i have been avoiding commenting mostly because of i always have a hard time when people talk about underhooks in the womens style... but... if everything was so harmonious and on the up and up at NLWC, i have to think bo would have been told taylor was too injured to wrestle 86 several years ago... so... These are both fairly good points that I conveniently forgot. I don't really have a defense for it. The only thing I might think is that maybe Nickal wasn't on the up and up with the senior coaching staff like Brooks is. 2 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 hour ago, LJB said: i have been avoiding commenting mostly because of i always have a hard time when people talk about underhooks in the womens style... but... if everything was so harmonious and on the up and up at NLWC, i have to think bo would have been told taylor was too injured to wrestle 86 several years ago... so... Bingo. DT did him dirty. i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Wouldn't Bo just have known? I would think so if they are in the same room beating up on each other, or not because Taylor was too injured. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 you think he weighed in at 87.5kg to be totally ineffective against cox all the while knowing that downey was going to just be gifted the spot at Final X? if so... something about a bridge... Arizona ocean front property... elevator pass... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Bo is smart. Bo is sly. How many points you think Bo got on that 250,000?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromit Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 18 hours ago, mspart said: Wouldn't Bo just have known? I would think so if they are in the same room beating up on each other, or not because Taylor was too injured. mspart No way he knew, it’s the other Bo who “knows” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 On 5/19/2023 at 1:33 PM, LJB said: Arizona ocean front property... It could happen!! mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, mspart said: It could happen!! Maybe if the state dries up and blows over to the coast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 On 5/19/2023 at 4:33 PM, LJB said: rizona ocean front property... 21 minutes ago, mspart said: It could happen!! 5 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Maybe if the state dries up and blows over to the coast... More likely- the coast comes over to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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