Pinnacle Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 3 hours ago, AgaveMaria said: Writers Strike. We are stuck with Cinnabutts. Writer's strike? Maybe he needs some AI. Maybe he IS AI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 11 hours ago, Pinnacle said: Writer's strike? Maybe he needs some AI. Maybe he IS AI? 2 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 37 minutes ago, Idaho said: That's The Answer! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Yes he should and then hire Ben and Max Askren to take down the evil empire in Penn State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVStateChamp Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I know this is a thread to troll, but I cannot help but think there is going to be a big shift in head coaches in the next 5-10 years. It seems as though John Smith is on the last leg of his coaching career, Some Hawkeye fans want Tom out now and Bono has not seemed to be a fan favorite. This is all speculation and an outsider looking in but I think it will be interesting to see who the next big coaches will be for the more historic programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ivan Stankowski said: Yes he should and then hire Ben and Max Askren to take down the evil empire in Penn State I'm fine with that. Sounds like a plan. Have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, JVStateChamp said: I know this is a thread to troll, but I cannot help but think there is going to be a big shift in head coaches in the next 5-10 years. It seems as though John Smith is on the last leg of his coaching career, Some Hawkeye fans want Tom out now and Bono has not seemed to be a fan favorite. This is all speculation and an outsider looking in but I think it will be interesting to see who the next big coaches will be for the more historic programs. OSU fans have wanted to get rid of Tom Ryan for a few years now. Fans are assholes... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MPhillips said: OSUe (Ohie Statie) fans have wanted to get rid of Tom Ryan for a few years now. Fans are assholes... ftfy Edited May 11, 2023 by ionel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVStateChamp Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, MPhillips said: OSU fans have wanted to get rid of Tom Ryan for a few years now. Fans are assholes... Tom Ryan is interesting in the fact he seems to excel in recruiting but his ability to develop talent has been questioned. I imagine when he leaves either Jaggers or Steiber will take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, gimpeltf said: That's The Answer! To The 3rd Degree! "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 34 minutes ago, Ivan Stankowski said: Yes he should and then hire Ben and Max Askren to take down the evil empire in Penn State In the last year or so Ben took a talent recruitment position for the Empire 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, JVStateChamp said: I imagine when he leaves either Jaggers or Steiber will take over. I don't believe either are an upgrade, seeing how they are the two who are developing the talent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 Just now, MPhillips said: I don't believe either are an upgrade, seeing how they are the two who are developing the talent... A lot of talk about DT coaching the Nits after Cael but I've always believed that Ohio State was the one school that could pluck him away from the PSU network I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) These just do not feel like the kind of results to get Brands fired. It really comes down to expectations though. Does Iowa administration expect Gable-like results? Does Iowa administration expect drama free teams? Does the degree of drama in the wrestling program come anywhere near the degree of drama that football and basketball programs typically produce? Do non-revenue sport coaches get more rope than revenue sport coaches? Do things like fund raising that leads to new facilities matter? My uneducated guesses for answers are "not really", "to some degree", "not even close", "yes - a lot", "yes - a whole lotta lot". Note: The time range only covers two of Brands' four titles. Going back to 2008 would significantly improve his numbers. Unfortunately I only have complete team scores going to 2010. I think I know where to find earlier scores, though, so stay tuned. Edited May 11, 2023 by Wrestleknownothing 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Throw in 2007 - 2009 for Brands and the numbers change very little. Average finish goes from 3.0 to 3.1 and average points goes from 89.4 to 89.6. Brands is the clear number 2. Yes, closer to 3 than 1, but I don't think that will get him even discussed, never mind fired. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: but I don't think that will get him even discussed, never mind fired. I make the same argument for Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, PortaJohn said: In the last year or so Ben took a talent recruitment position for the Empire Well I am thinking with the NIL money he could offer the 3 AWA wrestlers that are at the evil empire, that would be an easy transition to Iowa, if Iowa is looking at getting back to the top I see this as the only option, but I have been wrong once before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 7 hours ago, MPhillips said: OSU fans have wanted to get rid of Tom Ryan for a few years now. Fans are assholes... tOSU fans have a reasonable gripe that their HS kids ride the donkey piss out of opponents and know how to get out from bottom real quick, but the premiere college program can do neither at the level expected of that program. [BNWTWG is not available for questions at this time about Illinois-related anythings] 1 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 As a PSU fan, keep the Brands bros as long as possible, Iowa.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 45 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: tOSU fans have a reasonable gripe Don't they all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 10 hours ago, gimpeltf said: That's The Answer! But what about practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 2 hours ago, DJT said: But what about practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Until you see this in the corner, nothing is going to change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 23 hours ago, MPhillips said: OSU fans have wanted to get rid of Tom Ryan for a few years now. Fans are assholes... Tom Ryan seems like a great guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 @Laxhawk174 I am embarrassed that there was an error in my prior posting that you shared on HR. I had 2009 in my data twice, once labelled as 2010. Ugly. Anyway, here is the corrected table. The conclusions remain the same. Brands/Iowa is the clear number two over the time period, but well ahead of third, and certainly not the kind of results that gets a coach fired. The average points for Iowa including 2007-2009 becomes 92.0. 2010 was a good year for both Iowa and PSU relative to 2009. I will sin with data no more. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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