TwoPointsTakeDown84 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 I've been able to look up most of the coaches in the B1G but can't seem to find PSU, NU, and RU. How much of their 'salary' is covered through RTC or other means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 There was a topic on this a month or so back. At that time, I was able to find Goodale's University pay. NU and PSU are trickier to find since they are private institutions. Being non-profits there are some reporting requirements, but much less than state run institutions. https://intermatforums.com/topic/1750-what-are-the-top-20-wrestling-head-coaches-salaries/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, fishbane said: There was a topic on this a month or so back. At that time, I was able to find Goodale's University pay. NU and PSU are trickier to find since they are private institutions. Being non-profits there are some reporting requirements, but much less than state run institutions. https://intermatforums.com/topic/1750-what-are-the-top-20-wrestling-head-coaches-salaries/ PSU is neither a state or private institution 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPointsTakeDown84 Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 37 minutes ago, fishbane said: There was a topic on this a month or so back. At that time, I was able to find Goodale's University pay. NU and PSU are trickier to find since they are private institutions. Being non-profits there are some reporting requirements, but much less than state run institutions. https://intermatforums.com/topic/1750-what-are-the-top-20-wrestling-head-coaches-salaries/ Thanks! And Alex Clemson makes that much!? What's with Minnesota salaries, why such a dramatic difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Salary reporting can be tricky and is not always an apples to apples comparison, so grain of salt and all that. • Sometimes the salary is fully loaded (benefits added), sometimes not • Bonus structure is often not included but can be significant compared to base salary • Performance based bonuses can fluctuate wildly from year to year • Figures don't include outside money like camp income, paid sponsorships, and booster perks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 8 hours ago, TwoPointsTakeDown84 said: Thanks! And Alex Clemson makes that much!? What's with Minnesota salaries, why such a dramatic difference? The MN number isn't right. The govsalaries had him earning $150k in 2018 and all years subsequent were around $40k. Not sure what changed in their reporting, but I don't believe he took a $110k paycut. He's probably around Clemson at $190k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Clemsen has done a damn good job so far considering what he started with. I am a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYou Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Don't forget the backdoor income stream....wrestling camps. Schools vary on who owns the camp, school or coach. Penn State owns Sanderson's camp, taking the revenue and eating the expense. Goodale owns the Rutgers camp and pays the university a nominal facility use fee for university facilities and a per participant housing and meal fee. (A while back he charged $450 for the week and paid the university $125 per wrestler for facility use, rooms and meals...multiply that by 150 kids X 4 weeks) For many coaches, the income derived from hosting sports camps can exceed what shows up as a university salary. Same goes for assistant coaches that basically operate the camps for the coach. The HC uses that revenue to supplement assistant coach pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manatree Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Penn State is not a private university, but they are not a completely public university. PSU, Pitt, Temple, & Lincoln are considered as State-Affiliated and they are only partially funded by the commonwealth. For PSU, Commonwealth Appropriations typically account for 4-5% of their operating budget. 10-11% if you exclude the PSU Hershey medical system and PennTech. Penn State releases the top 25 paid employees, but it is only on their base salaries. For 2021, the lowest listed was $662,311. So we know that Sanderson's base salary is less than that. His total combined compensation is anybody's guess. On a similar note, when their football coach signed a new contract in signed a new contract in 2021, it was reported that his base salary was $500,000 and the supplemental, etc. was an additional $6,500,000 per year. Their new basketball coach supposedly signed a seven year contract that averages a combined $3,700,000 per year. https://openpayrolls.com/rank/highest-paid-employees/pennsylvania-state-university Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYou Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 21 hours ago, manatree said: Penn State is not a private university, but they are not a completely public university. PSU, Pitt, Temple, & Lincoln are considered as State-Affiliated and they are only partially funded by the commonwealth. Also known as "instrumentalities of the state". Essentially, they operate independent of the state, but are obligated to abide by certain state laws such as the requirement to bid contracts (other employment contracts) over a defined value (most orgs set a cap anyway). The employees are also enrolled in the state pension and healthcare systems. It's a bit of cherry picking the to the university's advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNRodent Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 The median salary will be lot less than the average. The fat tails like Sanderson and Brands skew the average up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerDurden Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Yeah. The B1G will have a pretty wide range, even if (especially if) you include camps, bonuses, etc. Some schools seriously invest (Iowa, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, etc.) and some do not (Indiana, for one). The high-end spenders pay their top assistants more than the head coaches at some places. That's not to say the guys on the lower end can't or don't make a nice living for coaching wrestling, but it does illustrate the uphill climb they have just to compete within their own conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manatree Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 10 hours ago, RYou said: Also known as "instrumentalities of the state". Essentially, they operate independent of the state, but are obligated to abide by certain state laws such as the requirement to bid contracts (other employment contracts) over a defined value (most orgs set a cap anyway). The employees are also enrolled in the state pension and healthcare systems. It's a bit of cherry picking the to the university's advantage. Penn State employees have the option to choose the state pension system or TIAA/CREF. PSU employees are not in teh state healthcare coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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