BlacknGold Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Early prediction: Kale Peterson and Gabe Arnold make the lineup. Arnold goes 174/184, Nelson Brands/Abe Assad take remaining weight class. AJ Ferrari gets 2nd chance. 125- Drake Ayala (RSSO) 133- Kale Peterson (FR)/ Brody Teske (SR) 141- Real Woods (SR) 149- Coby Siebrecht (JR)/ Caleb Rathjen (SO) 157- Cody Chittum (FR) 165- Pat Kennedy (SO) 174- Nelson Brands (SR) 184- Gabe Arnold (FR)/ Abe Assad (SR) 197- AJ Ferrari* (SO)/ Zach Glazier (JR)/ Kolby Franklin (RSFR) 285- Anthony Cassioppi (SR) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Very tough lineup. Could win it all over Penn State with the right draw. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, BlacknGold said: AJ Ferrari gets 2nd chance. Not his 2nd chance, this would be like 7th or 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, BlacknGold said: Early prediction: Kale Peterson and Gabe Arnold make the lineup. Arnold goes 174/184, Nelson Brands/Abe Assad take remaining weight class. AJ Ferrari gets 2nd chance. 125- Drake Ayala (RSSO) 133- Kale Peterson (FR)/ Brody Teske (SR) 141- Real Woods (SR) 149- Coby Siebrecht (JR)/ Caleb Rathjen (SO) 157- Cody Chittum (FR) 165- Pat Kennedy (SO) 174- Nelson Brands (SR) 184- Gabe Arnold (FR)/ Abe Assad (SR) 197- AJ Ferrari* (SO)/ Zach Glazier (JR)/ Kolby Franklin (RSFR) 285- Anthony Cassioppi (SR) I firmly believe Arnold redshirts. Plus he’s projected at 74 and it’s not definite on whether AJ will even wrestle next year (even though it would help the Hawkeyes greatly if he did wrestle). I’m super interested with 149/157! Especially to see how specific Hawkeyes manage their weight and see which ones choose what weight class is best/healthiest for them. I’m excited to see how good Anthony Ferrari will be! To say the least I’m excited to see how we perform next year! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacknGold Posted May 2, 2023 Author Share Posted May 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan said: I firmly believe Arnold redshirts. Plus he’s projected at 74 and it’s not definite on whether AJ will even wrestle next year (even though it would help the Hawkeyes greatly if he did wrestle). I’m super interested with 149/157! Especially to see how specific Hawkeyes manage their weight and see which ones choose what weight class is best/healthiest for them. I’m excited to see how good Anthony Ferrari will be! To say the least I’m excited to see how we perform next year! No info on that but Arnold and Peterson look ready to go. Ryder Block and Ben Kueter are more likely to redshirt as they make weight adjustments. Anthony Ferrari maybe should redshirt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Did AJ already committ [sic] to Iowa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwrestler Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Are we confident AJ Ferrari can ever make 197 again? Guy is huge Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 minute ago, poorwrestler said: Are we confident AJ Ferrari can ever make 197 again? Guy is huge Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I am more interested in whether he can make admission standards. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwrestler Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 I am more interested in whether he can make admission standards.I feel like the answer to both questions is probably no Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I am more interested in whether he can make admission standards. Does Iowa have high admission standards? Can't imagine it being any tougher than Oklahoma State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 20 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Does Iowa have high admission standards? Can't imagine it being any tougher than Oklahoma State. Oh, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. So sweet, innocent, and pure. Whatever you do, do NOT turn on the news. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3 for LU Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Oh, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. So sweet, innocent, and pure. Whatever you do, do NOT turn on the news. ... that pastry needs a sugar-ectomy, STAT! D3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 I think pd3 got into grad school at Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 34 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: I think pd3 got into grad school at Iowa. Also pretty sure Jimmy was accepted into the University of Phoenix Graduate School of Pastry Arts but does that tell us much we didn't already know about Jimmy & pd3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 hours ago, poorwrestler said: Are we confident AJ Ferrari can ever make 197 again? Guy is huge Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Don't tell that to @PortaJohn, who is convinced AJ was a small 197 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gus said: Don't tell that to @PortaJohn, who is convinced AJ was a small 197 You AJ fanboys are relentless I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 11 hours ago, BlacknGold said: Early prediction: Kale Peterson and Gabe Arnold make the lineup. Arnold goes 174/184, Nelson Brands/Abe Assad take remaining weight class. AJ Ferrari gets 2nd chance. 125- Drake Ayala (RSSO) -A contender next year, for sure. Peak 1st with a valley of going 0-2 at NCAAs. I think he is in the 4-R12 range for sure, though. 133- Kale Peterson (FR)/ Brody Teske (SR) - I think it's another year of Teske/Schriever with one of them cementing before nationals. I think either one will/would qualify but I also think they're looking at 6th, 8th, R12, or R16 type performance depending on the draw, however a performance of 0-2 at NCAAs would not surprise me. 141- Real Woods (SR) - I think he is in the title match regardless of draw - providing injuries don't take a toll. He is the favorite for next season. Peak of 1st, valley of 2nd. 149- Coby Siebrecht (JR)/ Caleb Rathjen (SO) - I really like Siebrecht here. If he can whittle down on his mistakes and keep up the high output, he is a sleeper for a contender. I do think his peak is high AA, however his valley is still 0-2 at NCAAs. 157- Cody Chittum (FR) - I think he is going to struggle. He got by for so long by just being stronger, even if he was better. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him ORS or proper RS next year. That leaves a whole here, though. 165- Pat Kennedy (SO) - He is a contender for 3rd at the very peak next year (he isn't beating Carr or O'Toole). If he was going to take 'that' step to compete, he would have already (this will be his 4th year on campus). He could only win a match or two though, depending on draw. 165 is still rather brutal. 174- Nelson Brands (SR) - I feel we saw peak performance 174lb Brands at NCAAs and he also got an absolute helluva draw. He could do that again. His grit and hand fighting will keep him in a lot of matches he should not be in, however he also wrestles down to his opponents level - or keeps those matches far too close for comfort. Mid-AA to 0-2 at NCAAs. 184- Gabe Arnold (FR)/ Abe Assad (SR) - Arnold hasn't really blown the socks off at any weight above 174lbs. Been good, just not great. He won't be doing so when increasing his weight for College either. He is built for 174. If Assad gets injured we could see him, but I doubt it. Assad should be the guy. I see a Mid-AA type performance possible, but he can never put it all together. 0-2 at NCAAs is more likely than Mid-AA, but I do think he gets to the R12 this year. Can he win there? Not sure. 197- AJ Ferrari* (SO)/ Zach Glazier (JR)/ Kolby Franklin (RSFR) - Focus isn't wrestling 197 for Iowa. Ever. If he does wrestle for Iowa it will be after Cassioppi is gone at 285. I am not sure, but Focus might just be eligible for an ORS? Glazier and Franklin will both struggle to even get to 0.500. This might be the only weight they don't qualify 285- Anthony Cassioppi (SR) - He is a contender for next season's title, so long as Steveson doesn't come back (somehow?). I don't see the gap there with Kerk, and with how little it looked like Kerk wanted that Natty Title, I think Cassioppi is on the up. I think his peak is a title and his valley is 3rd or 4th, depending on the draw/day. My takes on your OP in BOLD UNDERLINE. My opinion is that their peak performance team would be Brands dropping to 157 and Arnold at 174. Chittum just has not impressed in a couple of years. He reminds me of a smaller version of Taylor Massa. He dominated so easily for so long until he got big and ran in to some other strong kids who also were good. I am okay being wrong. I do think that the better Iowa is, the better the state of wrestling in the USofA. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Gus said: Don't tell that to @PortaJohn, who is convinced AJ was a small 197 5 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: You AJ fanboys are relentless He is upwards over 230 right now. You think he wants to shrink back down to 197 and risk lowering his deadlift? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Just now, nhs67 said: He is upwards over 230 right now. You think he wants to shrink back down to 197 and risk lowering his deadlift? I've seen the videos. He's put on a lot of weight. But he's not a big human being. He's shorter than Gable Steveson who's barely 6 feet. And Ferrari has short arms. I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Just now, PortaJohn said: I've seen the videos. He's put on a lot of weight. But he's not a big human being. He's shorter than Gable Steveson who's barely 6 feet. And Ferrari has short arms. Amine, who was heavier than Truax at NCAAs, was dwarfed by him. He also was considerably larger than Nino. He was not small at 197. I think you are grossly overestimating most 197lbers actual sizes. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: I've seen the videos. He's put on a lot of weight. But he's not a big human being. He's shorter than Gable Steveson who's barely 6 feet. And Ferrari has short arms. I thought Ferrari had long arms? Most good deadlifters do, although I have difficulty using the term "deadlift" with someone who uses straps. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Amine, who was heavier than Truax at NCAAs, was dwarfed by him. He also was considerably larger than Nino. He was not small at 197. I think you are grossly overestimating most 197lbers actual sizes. I stand by my original statement. Ferrari was not a big 197 pounder. Average size. Sure. I'll agree I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, PortaJohn said: I stand by my original statement. Ferrari was not a big 197 pounder. Average size. Sure. I'll agree Who has been larger since or during his NCAA title? Name a single NCAA wrestler that has wrestled 197 that is larger during the last three years. The only person that I can think of that made him look 'average' was when he wrestled 97 KG against Honis. And he still wasn't small compared to Honis. Honis (who makes Snyder look small) was just simply a full-sized 97 KG (16lbs heavier) guy. Edited May 2, 2023 by nhs67 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: I thought Ferrari had long arms? Most good deadlifters do, although I have difficulty using the term "deadlift" with someone who uses straps. AJ "claims" he's 6 feet (but is somehow shorter than Gable Steveson) and has an 80 inch wingspan. I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Just now, PortaJohn said: AJ "claims" he's 6 feet (but is somehow shorter than Gable Steveson) and has an 80 inch wingspan. 80" would be extremely long. I just looked at some pictures, and his arms do look on the longer side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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