nhs67 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: thanks skippy You're welcome. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de4856 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 I know that it’s useless to say this but where’s Bo Nickal when you need him. He could be the guy at 92. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, bnwtwg said: Sooooo the David Taylor problem? I mean, you brought up Grand Prix so that’s instantly where my mind went. Quite an ironic comparison methinks it is one thing to beat a medalist, it is another to win a medal. That's all I said. Relax folks. It's okay. Edited May 4, 2023 by WrestlingRasta delete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said: it is one thing to beat a medalist, it is another to win a medal. That's all I said. Relax folks. It's okay. ... Didn't you say that he was incapable of bringing home a medal? Wasn't that your stance? It is okay for you to have an opinion. It is also okay for it to be wrong. Relax. It's okay. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim L Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said: it is one thing to beat a medalist, it is another to win a medal. That's all I said. Relax folks. It's okay. And it is another thing to have beaten multiple medalists. If you can regularly beat guys that have won medals it should be obvious that you should be viewed as a medal threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Then become a member of another nation's team and qualify the weight. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 I believe the writing is on the wall for Valencia. If he were going to head to Mexico he would have already. Unfortunately for us gents who want to see him do that, if he competes at 92 KG, I believe he wins the spot for us. That gives him a shot at a medal at Worlds this year. If(when) he wins that medal the cost to transfer becomes considerably more. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 With his #2 finish at US Nationals at 84, can he then enter the WTTs at 92kg? That would be a viable move if it is possible. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 With his #2 finish at US Nationals at 84, can he then enter the WTTs at 92kg? That would be a viable move if it is possible. mspartHe’s already entered at 92kg.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Ah ok. I didn't even know that was possible. This might be very interesting. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Has a country has ever swept an Olympics? For example - Gold - Valencia, Mexico Silver - Amine, San Marino Bronze - Taylor, USA Bronze - Ramos, Puerto Rico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: Has a country has ever swept an Olympics? For example - Gold - Valencia, Mexico Silver - Amine, San Marino Bronze - Taylor, USA Bronze - Ramos, Puerto Rico 1904 (I know) Games Gold Silver Bronze Light flyweight details Robert Curry United States John Hein United States Gustav Thiefenthaler Switzerland Flyweight details George Mehnert United States Gustave Bauer United States William Nelson United States Bantamweight details Isidor Niflot United States August Wester United States Louis Strebler United States Featherweight details Benjamin Bradshaw United States Theodore McLear United States Charles Clapper United States Lightweight details Otto Roehm United States Rudolph Tesing United States Albert Zirkel United States Welterweight details Charles Ericksen Norway William Beckmann United States Jerry Winholtz United States Heavyweight details Bernhoff Hansen Norway Frank Kugler Germany Fred Warmbold United States 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, gimpeltf said: 1904 (I know) Games Gold Silver Bronze Light flyweight details Robert Curry United States John Hein United States Gustav Thiefenthaler Switzerland Flyweight details George Mehnert United States Gustave Bauer United States William Nelson United States Bantamweight details Isidor Niflot United States August Wester United States Louis Strebler United States Featherweight details Benjamin Bradshaw United States Theodore McLear United States Charles Clapper United States Lightweight details Otto Roehm United States Rudolph Tesing United States Albert Zirkel United States Welterweight details Charles Ericksen Norway William Beckmann United States Jerry Winholtz United States Heavyweight details Bernhoff Hansen Norway Frank Kugler Germany Fred Warmbold United States Asked and answered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Willie Nelson is old, but I didn't know he was that old!! mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 5 hours ago, nhs67 said: ... Didn't you say that he was incapable of bringing home a medal? Wasn't that your stance? It is okay for you to have an opinion. It is also okay for it to be wrong. Relax. It's okay. You got the stickies…don’t you. No, I didn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: You got the stickies…don’t you. No, I didn’t. Same team. Still counts. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Jim L said: And it is another thing to have beaten multiple medalists. If you can regularly beat guys that have won medals it should be obvious that you should be viewed as a medal threat. I agree with 99% of that. I just don’t go so far ahead of myself to consider a guy world medal threat….who is not competing in the world championships. Countless upon countless examples of people who have beaten a medalist, yet never competed in a world championship, let alone medaled, keep me from taking that step. Maybe this will simmer everyone’s onions: Do I believe he has the talent and skills to win a medal some day? Sure. Do I consider him a medal threat in a tournament before he is able to put it together enough to qualify for said tournament? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 I have to say, my onions are simmered now. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgaveMaria Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/2/2023 at 10:37 AM, Plasmodium said: This is true, but I think he'll have more success against international competition than, for instance, Brooks. His issues are David Taylor and that Americans rely on conditioning, which is his kryptonite. I hope he joins his brother in Mexico. I think he has an excellent shot at a medal. Personally, I enjoy watching him. Mexico will find him loading up on frijoles, mole, hueveos rancheros, burritos, menudo, tamales and more. He will be wrestling Gable Stevenson weight before you know it and will successfully bypass Cox and Snyder. ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, AgaveMaria said: Mexico will find him loading up on frijoles, mole, hueveos rancheros, burritos, menudo, tamales and more. He will be wrestling Gable Stevenson weight before you know it and will successfully bypass Cox and Snyder. How about some of those agave distillates? Will he load up on those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 58 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: How about some of those agave distillates? Will he load up on those? If he doesn't, I will. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Valencia can wrestle for Mexico but not this year. There is a window and waiting time for transferring to another country. Seems there is a de facto "transfer portal" now for freestyle (international) not just folk (domestic). In the future, guys might be able to wrestle for Mars or Venus or Jupiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 57 minutes ago, SocraTease said: Valencia can wrestle for Mexico but not this year. There is a window and waiting time for transferring to another country. Seems there is a de facto "transfer portal" now for freestyle (international) not just folk (domestic). In the future, guys might be able to wrestle for Mars or Venus or Jupiter. I wonder if by then August Wesley will be representing Uranus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 12 hours ago, nhs67 said: Same team. Still counts. I don’t even know what you’re trying to say here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 11 hours ago, mspart said: I have to say, my onions are simmered now. mspart Delish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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