98lberEating2Lunches Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 hours ago, MNRodent said: have to wonder how guaranteed these cash offers are if injuries, or drop in performance occurs? Is the entire "bag" paid upfront or is part of it contingent on results? By rule, NIL contacts can't be dependent on athletic performance. They are supposed to be for something tangible (e.g., service, royalties for T-shirts) where the payment amount relates to some kind of idea of its market value. I'm sure a NIL contract could make full payment up front for specific future scheduled activities. And if the athlete did not fulfill their contractual obligations, the sponsor could seek a remedy via the courts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98lberEating2Lunches Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, poorwrestler said: Nagao will be greatly effected by the new rules, imo. Per WrestleStat, in two years (RS, FR) Nagao has only once won by riding time point (2-1). Based on this, it doesn't seem he'd be greatly affected. The new rules don't prohibit riding, and it doesn't seem Nagao's style of riding would produce stalling calls while he's on top. Edited April 25, 2023 by 98lberEating2Lunches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwrestler Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Per WrestleStat, in two years (RS, FR) Nagao has only once won by riding time point (2-1). Based on this, it doesn't seem he'd be greatly affected. The new rules don't prohibit riding, and it doesn't seem Nagao's style of riding would produce stalling calls while he's on top.I’m not referring to just riding time, look at his match at NCAA’s against Kai Orine for example. Or Jesse Mendez at big tens, he lost the takedown battle but won by riding well and getting quick escapes. He doesn’t win those matches with new rules. Again, he’s a really talented kid and hard worker so I’m sure he will adapt, but he’ll need to be more offensive on his feet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacknGold Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said: He's a lot better on his feet than we've seen, and better than Nagao from neutral. They competed against each other last summer in freestyle, Nagao won 9-8 and went on to make the U23 world team, and this was before his first year of college wrestling experience. Good match, but perhaps the talent gap has expanded since then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98lberEating2Lunches Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, poorwrestler said: I’m not referring to just riding time, look at his match at NCAA’s against Kai Orine for example. Or Jesse Mendez at big tens, he lost the takedown battle but won by riding well and getting quick escapes. He doesn’t win those matches with new rules. Again, he’s a really talented kid and hard worker so I’m sure he will adapt, but he’ll need to be more offensive on his feet. Gotcha. Yeah, with the 3-pt takedown he'll (like most everyone) need to get better offensively and defensively on their feet. Necessity is a powerful motivator, so I think he’ll be up to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle26 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 What offer did he allegedly get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Eagle26 said: What offer did he allegedly get? 1 billion dollars. 1 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle26 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, nhs67 said: 1 billion dollars. Is nhs67 Pat Mineo’s username? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Eagle26 said: Is nhs67 Pat Mineo’s username? That fuckwit wishes. 3 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 hours ago, poorwrestler said: I’m not referring to just riding time, look at his match at NCAA’s against Kai Orine for example. Or Jesse Mendez at big tens, he lost the takedown battle but won by riding well and getting quick escapes. He doesn’t win those matches with new rules. Again, he’s a really talented kid and hard worker so I’m sure he will adapt, but he’ll need to be more offensive on his feet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk that's how Real beat Swiderski. i wouldn't look at one singular bout. Nagao is better than Teske. by a lot. what has Teske ever done at 133? he's also younger. And i don't buy this 'new rules will hurt him theory'. 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Chittum ain't going 149 and AJ ain't going 197. TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgaveMaria Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Hope he can stand up to Grinder Wrestling. ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Husker_Du said: Chittum ain't going 149 and AJ ain't going 197. 184 or HWT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwrestler Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 that's how Real beat Swiderski. i wouldn't look at one singular bout. Nagao is better than Teske. by a lot. what has Teske ever done at 133? he's also younger. And i don't buy this 'new rules will hurt him theory'.Oh yeah certainly not trying to argue Teske is better. I think Nagao is a championship contender and Teske would be lucky to AA. I do think he will have to adjust his game a bit. Which, as I’ve said, he’s super talented and capable of doing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Taco Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 7 hours ago, Husker_Du said: Chittum ain't going 149 and AJ ain't going 197. Bet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Bet?You think the kid who couldn’t make 147.4 for a single day event is going to make 149 twice a week for 5 months???Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barracuda141 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Le duke said: You think the kid who couldn’t make 147.4 for a single day event is going to make 149 twice a week for 5 months??? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Chittum will be at 157 and Seibrecht will be down at 149 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 8 hours ago, Husker_Du said: Chittum ain't going 149 and AJ ain't going 197. @Husker_Du what weight do you think Anthony will go then? Anthony and Chittum duking it out for the 157 spot? And are you saying AJ will be HWT then? Do you think he still competes in college and at Iowa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82bordeaux Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: 184 or HWT? 18 to 36 depending on good behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, 82bordeaux said: 18 to 36 depending on good behavior. He won't do any jail time. Probably just probation and a suspended sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, 82bordeaux said: 18 to 36 depending on good behavior. 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: He won't do any jail time. Probably just probation and a suspended sentence. How so? He is facing 1 to 15, who's going to let him off with probation? Anthony got the defferred/suspended, don't think AJ will get a sympathetic jury in Payne County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacknGold Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Who needs a lawyer when you can get all the information from the pros here on the forum? Guess the case is closed. Lock him up. Forum said so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, BlacknGold said: Who needs a lawyer when you can get all the information from the pros here on the forum? Guess the case is closed. Lock him up. Forum said so... JC is world renowned for being the utmost expert on everything. Google it. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacknGold Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, nhs67 said: JC is world renowned for being the utmost expert on everything. Google it. I'm sure the judge will be calling everyone on this thread the night before the verdict for professional advice 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 1:35 PM, VakAttack said: Good to know that God is an Iowa fan. Turns out, maybe Joseph Smith was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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