MPhillips Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Just now, TexRef said: I did post that and I was wondering what the seasoned veterans of the this forum (like yourself) would say. It appears that filling the OU position might be a lot harder than originally thought. I wasn't even aware. I would have been shocked had it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 4 hours ago, TexRef said: I think OU is working hard to find a new coach. The question is do they go after an established coach like Manning or a young coach that is on the right path, such as Gavin? Branch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerKing Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 Well... my hope to stir pot didn't come to fruition. Joe C has a sticky situation. OU needs to find the guy that can lead. Not just coach the wrestlers but LEAD the program. As a huge fan I'm frustrated that nothing settled yet but I do realize that they need to get this right. The person needs to be have a plan not only on getting talent but also running of the RTC, getting fans at matches, and donors to support. I pray we get this right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Troy Nickerson should get interviewed for these jobs. Not a fan, but he did breathe some life into a half funded program and produce a natty champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragit Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, SoonerKing said: Well... my hope to stir pot didn't come to fruition. Joe C has a sticky situation. OU needs to find the guy that can lead. Not just coach the wrestlers but LEAD the program. As a huge fan I'm frustrated that nothing settled yet but I do realize that they need to get this right. The person needs to be have a plan not only on getting talent but also running of the RTC, getting fans at matches, and donors to support. I pray we get this right. Wait. So are you saying that this thread, including the original post saying that OU and its administrators "have now landed Bill Zadick," has zero factual basis; and your purpose in starting it was to somehow get OU to want to hire Zadick and Zadick to want the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Brixton Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 I can't speak to Roselli's management skills but Cody wasn't exactly chopped liver at American. He built a nice program there. So the last two highly regarded coaches have been fired and I seem to remember many wanting Spates pushed out at the end of his tenure. Oklahoma isn't the recruiting hotbed it once was, it gets OSU's leftovers, the surrounding states are recruiting wastelands and the the flagship universities of Ohio and PA are now perennial powers, further limiting potential recruits. Compounded with sky-high expectations, this is a risky position to take on for any established coach. Anyone who has a good thing going will think twice about taking this position, regardless of the pay and resources. The grass isn't always greener, especially in Oklahoma. They could have waited until after 2024 to fire Roselli to see if they could land one of the newly retired legends as HC. Wrestling success is predicated on recruiting and a Dake or Taylor will be able to draw plenty of talent. At this point, it seems like their best bet might be to land someone with strong OU ties but Storniolo is the only HC that I can think of off the top of my head from OU. Frayer is well-respected but would he want to take it given the expectations and obvious hurdles? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerKing Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 I'm a FANatical and am shocked anyone slips believe the headline without having any confirmation anywhere else. There was 00000 rumors around Zadick. This rumor had no legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, SoonerKing said: I'm a FANatical and am shocked anyone slips believe the headline without having any confirmation anywhere else. There was 00000 rumors around Zadick. This rumor had no legs. Get some sleep 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom formerly Tofurky Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) Is Kendrick Maple ready to become a head coach? If so, and let's say OU hires him, how would that impact Mizzou? Edited April 24, 2023 by Tom formerly Tofurky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H82Lose Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 16 hours ago, TexRef said: I think OU is working hard to find a new coach. The question is do they go after an established coach like Manning or a young coach that is on the right path, such as Gavin? OU has completely screwed this entire search up, they have not "worked hard". They knew Lou was not the guy last year, but they kept "hanging on" then. Then he gets fired or uhhhh "resigned". They are talking to Koll, he teases them because of his ties to Spates, who was driving the Koll hire along with Leonard. Koll nods and says, I love it here, my wife hates it in Cali. OU offers and he says let me think on it, meanwhile texting all around to let the world know he was offered the job. Genius move and gets what he wants from Stanford and pulls his name. SO, next big donor steps up and wants Nickerson, and so they bring him on....and then there is a ton of backlash, saying they don't want Nickerson. Then the Hahn offer, and he turns it down. I am trying to confirm the Maple offer, if that is true, OU F*cked that up, by not approaching him from the rip. He would have really considered it, I think, but now he is like the fat girl at the punch bowl and being asked to dance because nobody is left. TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE, is how OU has handled this. Meanwhile, you have Fugitt getting calls left and right to come to their school, because of how F'd up OU is right now. That is OU's biggest recruit in my opinion, and they are gonna end up losing him if they don't get their shit together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 33 minutes ago, H82Lose said: OU has completely screwed this entire search up, they have not "worked hard". They knew Lou was not the guy last year, but they kept "hanging on" then. Then he gets fired or uhhhh "resigned". They are talking to Koll, he teases them because of his ties to Spates, who was driving the Koll hire along with Leonard. Koll nods and says, I love it here, my wife hates it in Cali. OU offers and he says let me think on it, meanwhile texting all around to let the world know he was offered the job. Genius move and gets what he wants from Stanford and pulls his name. SO, next big donor steps up and wants Nickerson, and so they bring him on....and then there is a ton of backlash, saying they don't want Nickerson. Then the Hahn offer, and he turns it down. I am trying to confirm the Maple offer, if that is true, OU F*cked that up, by not approaching him from the rip. He would have really considered it, I think, but now he is like the fat girl at the punch bowl and being asked to dance because nobody is left. TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE, is how OU has handled this. Meanwhile, you have Fugitt getting calls left and right to come to their school, because of how F'd up OU is right now. That is OU's biggest recruit in my opinion, and they are gonna end up losing him if they don't get their shit together. Yep.... My guess is that they end with someone who is very dissatisfied where they are or has run their course in their current program and need a new start. 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 9 hours ago, dragit said: Wait. So are you saying that this thread, including the original post saying that OU and its administrators "have now landed Bill Zadick," has zero factual basis Zero. Was it ever in doubt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Brixton Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, MPhillips said: Zero. Was it ever in doubt? OU fanfiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/22/2023 at 8:27 AM, SoonerKing said: WOW big news. Give Castiglione and the University credit. They went BIG and barely missed with Rob Koll but have now landed Bill Zadick to leave Colorado Springs and lead the Sooners. What a revelation! So this is complete BS …this forum is going to die quickly if posts like this are a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H82Lose Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, Idaho said: Yep.... My guess is that they end with someone who is very dissatisfied where they are or has run their course in their current program and need a new start. 100%. I cannot, and I repeat, I cannot believe they have screwed this up so bad. I said from the beginning, reach out to 10-15 wishlist candidates. Bring them in, if they will talk to you, and ask some questions and narrow it down. They had in their heads, we want a HC with experience, we are not talking to anyone else. Well, look how the hell that worked out. NOW, you are going to get many guys worth a damn, using OU to get raises, watch. Confirmed, Kendric did get offered and confirmed he turned it down....for good reason, but turned it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H82Lose Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Dark Energy said: So this is complete BS …this forum is going to die quickly if posts like this are a thing. honestly, when I read it, it pissed me off because I knew it was a blatant made up lie. I have been in forums, when you have dipshits that make up rumors, it is autoban. It ruins a lot of the forums. I told you guys Spratley was entering portal before it happened, and I also said OSU was where he would land because of Fix and he was to get into animal medicine. Most prolly thought, ok, roll eyes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerKing Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 100% admitted made it up. It did get H82Lose talking and his talking is very accurate. Not any BS or fabrication. Kudos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 i heard late last week that zaddick was in talks... and nickerson was 100% made an offer and immediately pulled... it was substantial... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 hour ago, SoonerKing said: 100% admitted made it up. It did get H82Lose talking and his talking is very accurate. Not any BS or fabrication. Kudos! Can you indicate where you "admitted," which post on page one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H82Lose Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, LJB said: i heard late last week that zaddick was in talks... and nickerson was 100% made an offer and immediately pulled... it was substantial... A single A donor wanted Nickerson, I did not know an offer was made. I do know that others found out he was on campus and folks started calling and threatening money if Nickerson was made HC. Here was my list I sent a major donor when Lou was gone: My list to call and bring in were: Frayer, Maple, Coleman, Burroughs, Cunningham, Clemson, Schwab, Metcalf, Pop, Stieber, Ian Miller, HC Frayer ASST Brewer ASST Howe or Ian Miller ASST Gwiz (some sort of mix of coach/RTC to get him paid) RTC Sam Haz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerKing Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, H82Lose said: A single A donor wanted Nickerson, I did not know an offer was made. I do know that others found out he was on campus and folks started calling and threatening money if Nickerson was made HC. Here was my list I sent a major donor when Lou was gone: My list to call and bring in were: Frayer, Maple, Coleman, Burroughs, Cunningham, Clemson, Schwab, Metcalf, Pop, Stieber, Ian Miller, HC Frayer ASST Brewer ASST Howe or Ian Miller ASST Gwiz (some sort of mix of coach/RTC to get him paid) RTC Sam Haz Solid staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Yeah to the Winkle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 hour ago, H82Lose said: I do know that others found out he was on campus and folks started calling and threatening money if Nickerson was made HC. Why the booster hate against Nickerson? What did he do to OU that sat in such a bad way? 1 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: Why the booster hate against Nickerson? What did he do to OU that sat in such a bad way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H82Lose Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: Why the booster hate against Nickerson? What did he do to OU that sat in such a bad way? No "Hate" I think it is more of, they felt there were better coaches out there. I think MANY want OU ties to the program to get the history back. ie. Oklahoma football currently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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